Harmony seemed to be a lot of fun in the first Endless with a very unique playstyle. I'm sad that they are extinguish... I would have loved to see them return as a playable faction in the second Endless Space

lordoflinks wrote:

Actually... if anything I think they are more than likely to be a playable race due to that event. I don't think Amplitude would imply you were fighting a Harmony if a fleet of pirate ships showed up, and this would rule them out as a minor fraction, as the minor fractions share ship designs. Therefore I think Harmony are a playable race whose assets have not been created yet, and that is why you face pirate ships. Hence in the final game, if my logic is correct, the pirate ships will be replaced with a Harmony vessel. I could see the Harmony working as an Ecologist fraction who wishes to remove the very much non-natrual dust from the universe. Hence I could see their government being composed of the Harmony and acolytes, if you will, of other races who have agreed to aid them in their mission.  

When I got the event it was one of the standard minor faction/pirate vessels and one of the Sophon ships, oddly enough. From that I got the same impression - they don't currently have assets for various ship classes, and are grabbing placeholders that fit the intended size. I doubt the quest text would state the ships were blue crystal if they were intended to be using the generic pirate vessels.

BlackBird1696 wrote:

Sovereign wrote:

Thats a shame I hoped for the Harmony to return as a major playable faction
they would have deserved it out of the reason that they were the most unique and the latest playable race released.

Also quite wierd why they would get extinct by the Dust.
Dust made them lost their link to the "Core" the rythm of the Universe and trapped them in the Galaxie of the Endless.
The further result was individuality (which most of them hated) thats why they started to purge the galaxy of the Dust. Their technology was able to destroy and purge Dust from entire star systems and now they were just killed by it?!  Or wasent it Dust? But how could the Endless create another Plague if they were gone?

I hope this plotholes will be resolved one day.

It doesn't explicitly state that the Harmony were killed by Dust. It says the Endless engineered a plague to kill them. That implies that the Endless came into direct conflict with the Harmony.

Yeah I made the same assumption is it wasent the Dust (which is unlikely) it seems in this "reboot" the Harmony directly encountered the Endless and they fought a war or something.

Fenrakk101 wrote:

If they did, they'd probably be reworked. They seem to be going in the direction of "no permanent effects" with this game - the Cravers have also had their Locust trait removed, and the Harmony's "no more Dust here" projects would likely get the same treatment. Which alone makes adding the race somewhat pointless.

Not true. The Cravers still deplete a planet. But it is now tied to the population. The more Cravers on a planet, the faster it depletes.

Actually... if anything I think they are more than likely to be a playable race due to that event. I don't think Amplitude would imply you were fighting a Harmony if a fleet of pirate ships showed up, and this would rule them out as a minor fraction, as the minor fractions share ship designs. Therefore I think Harmony are a playable race whose assets have not been created yet, and that is why you face pirate ships. Hence in the final game, if my logic is correct, the pirate ships will be replaced with a Harmony vessel. I could see the Harmony working as an Ecologist fraction who wishes to remove the very much non-natrual dust from the universe. Hence I could see their government being composed of the Harmony and acolytes, if you will, of other races who have agreed to aid them in their mission.  

It reminds me of guardians on Auriga. The Endless kind of feared them otherwise they wouldn't have created hunter killer machines to eradicate them. That harmony thing in the screenshot sure has the size of one of them.

Well I guess the only hope is they pop up as a playable race in an expansion, unless they were redesigned as an ecologist fraction...

BlackBird1696 wrote:

Sovereign wrote:

Thats a shame I hoped for the Harmony to return as a major playable faction
they would have deserved it out of the reason that they were the most unique and the latest playable race released.

Also quite wierd why they would get extinct by the Dust.
Dust made them lost their link to the "Core" the rythm of the Universe and trapped them in the Galaxie of the Endless.
The further result was individuality (which most of them hated) thats why they started to purge the galaxy of the Dust. Their technology was able to destroy and purge Dust from entire star systems and now they were just killed by it?!  Or wasent it Dust? But how could the Endless create another Plague if they were gone?

I hope this plotholes will be resolved one day.

It doesn't explicitly state that the Harmony were killed by Dust. It says the Endless engineered a plague to kill them. That implies that the Endless came into direct conflict with the Harmony.

True. Nobody really knows the aftermath, and judging by the quest outcome, the Harmony could just be "sleeping it off".

Sovereign wrote:

Thats a shame I hoped for the Harmony to return as a major playable faction
they would have deserved it out of the reason that they were the most unique and the latest playable race released.

Also quite wierd why they would get extinct by the Dust.
Dust made them lost their link to the "Core" the rythm of the Universe and trapped them in the Galaxie of the Endless.
The further result was individuality (which most of them hated) thats why they started to purge the galaxy of the Dust. Their technology was able to destroy and purge Dust from entire star systems and now they were just killed by it?!  Or wasent it Dust? But how could the Endless create another Plague if they were gone?

I hope this plotholes will be resolved one day.

It doesn't explicitly state that the Harmony were killed by Dust. It says the Endless engineered a plague to kill them. That implies that the Endless came into direct conflict with the Harmony.

Well this can't be good...

(I can't figure out how to get the linked image to display so I'll just have to link the screenshot thru steam)

Harmony

I hope we do see more of them in the future. Like a quest chain that unlocks them as a minor faction? It wouldn't be that hard to implement.

Also "Dust to Dust" is like is sying "bad things are going to happen to your stores of Dust. Beware."

I do love how that Harmony guy is big as a building. Not every alien in the galaxy should be Human sized.

Eji1700 wrote:

Got the same quest but with a scout ship, and didn't have time to get a real fleet there.  What happens if you win?

Not much, the quest ends there.

Got the same quest but with a scout ship, and didn't have time to get a real fleet there.  What happens if you win?

It's definitely a precursor to some sort of end game crisis quest. The last few lines of that quest are something like "you remind yourself to look up more about the harmony later"