Kweel_Nakashyn wrote:

WeaponizedCaffeine wrote:

Hi guys!

This is going to be addressed soon (I don't know when exactly though) but I think we're going to make something like -5 (if I am to believe the current value in the XML)

What you guys can do until the next patch is to tweak the values so you can play with the factions without being crushed by disapproval:

1. Open the directory Steam\steamapps\common\Endless Space 2\Public\Simulation

2. Open this file: SimulationDescriptors[ColonizedStarSystem].xml with a text editor of your choice such as Notepad++

3. Find this line (I think it should be around line 94)

<Property Name="HappinessPenaltyPerRepresentative"             BaseValue="15"  MinValue="Negative"/>

4. Change the BaseValue to the number you see fit! 

I hope this helps!

The current value in this file is allready 5.

The problem is in 

[[YOUR DRIVE]]:\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\Endless Space 2\Public\Simulation\SimulationDescriptors[Government].xml

line 26:

<Modifier TargetProperty="HappinessPenaltyPerRepresentative"    Operation="Multiplication"     Value="3"      Path="./ClassEmpire/ClassStarSystem"   /> 

To fix it, change this value to 1.

(or change the original value said by WeaponizedCafeine to 2, that would do -6 total)

Thank you so much for this one! :D

That is kind :)

I made a mod about this thing, here :

https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/forum/75-modding/thread/23517-mod-happy-dictator

Props to CypherOmega for the original idea.

WeaponizedCaffeine wrote:

Hi guys!

This is going to be addressed soon (I don't know when exactly though) but I think we're going to make something like -5 (if I am to believe the current value in the XML)

What you guys can do until the next patch is to tweak the values so you can play with the factions without being crushed by disapproval:

1. Open the directory Steam\steamapps\common\Endless Space 2\Public\Simulation

2. Open this file: SimulationDescriptors[ColonizedStarSystem].xml with a text editor of your choice such as Notepad++

3. Find this line (I think it should be around line 94)

<Property Name="HappinessPenaltyPerRepresentative"             BaseValue="15"  MinValue="Negative"/>

4. Change the BaseValue to the number you see fit! 

I hope this helps!

The current value in this file is allready 5.

The problem is in 

[[YOUR DRIVE]]:\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\Endless Space 2\Public\Simulation\SimulationDescriptors[Government].xml

line 26:

<Modifier TargetProperty="HappinessPenaltyPerRepresentative"    Operation="Multiplication"     Value="3"      Path="./ClassEmpire/ClassStarSystem"   /> 

To fix it, change this value to 1.

(or change the original value said by WeaponizedCafeine to 2, that would do -6 total)

shrike81 wrote:

vahouth wrote:

WeaponizedCaffeine wrote:

Hi guys!

This is going to be addressed soon (I don't know when exactly though) but I think we're going to make something like -5 (if I am to believe the current value in the XML)

What you guys can do until the next patch is to tweak the values so you can play with the factions without being crushed by disapproval:

1. Open the directory Steam\steamapps\common\Endless Space 2\Public\Simulation

2. Open this file:SimulationDescriptors with a text editor of your choice such as Notepad++

3. Find this line (I think it should be around line 94)

<Property Name="HappinessPenaltyPerRepresentative"             BaseValue="15"  MinValue="Negative"/>

4. Change the BaseValue to the number you see fit! 

I hope this helps!

Even a -5 seems too much especially since the bonus per pop for representatives in the senate is a +2.

I think it is only fair for the negative value to be the same, or at least half the positive value.

I can't seem to find the SimulationDescriptors file in Open the directory Steam\steamapps\common\Endless Space 2\Public\Simulation  i can just see 2 files Battles and Discovery...strange

Those are directories.  If no files are showing in the root of the Simulation directory, maybe you have xml's hidden?  Try clicking view, checking on file extensions and hidden items.  See if they appear then.

To me, these values are outputed by the game engine, so not in xml (or the input -> game engine -> output change names).

They made this for a few values that are slow to compute.

This may be the second max number of representative not in senate, no ?

(so if you have ecologists 10, scientifics 9, industrials 4, religious 2, this may be a 9 ? Or second + third maybe ?)

If somebody have values to show, like their local senate composition + value of the malus, maybe we could guess that number ?

I've been tinkering around with the files mentioned to change the happiness approval to something that satisfies all conditions.

My understanding is that from 0.2.0 to 0.2.3 the Multiplication amount to HappinessPenaltyPerRepresentative for dictatorships was added at "3" and the HappinessPenaltyPerRepresentative for all government types (and Anarchy) was raised from 0.5 to 5.

The combination of both of these caused massive issues for dictatorships.

Assume the 5 penalty is intended to be kept for all governments then it's only the multiplicative amount for dictatorships that needs to be changed.

Changing it in "SimulationDescriptors[Government]" from "3" to "0.4" seems to work pretty well in my opinion.  (each is then -2 approval per absent senator instead of -5 or actually -15 after multiplication in 0.2.3)  Much more than 0.4 risks other government choices become vastly superior imo the approval issues become to big an issue and the benefits (+50% dust only 1 law) aren't good enough in comparison.

Dictatorships become playable again and the other government types are left untouched which isn't the case if you alter the "SimulationDescriptors[ColonizedStarSystem]" file.

It's a beaten horse I think, Amplitude surely fixed the problem in their build and winter the patch is coming.

It's the same calculation for all 4 regimes in the vanilla game / no mod. Dictorship get this multiplied by 3 and number of representative per population changes, by regime.

The values of some variables change ; beside this, the calculation is exactly the same.

The disapproval value is calculated by system with:

- HappinessPenaltyPerRepresentative * RepresentativeWithoutPartyInSenateCount

Base value of HappinessPenaltyPerRepresentative is 5, multiplied by 3 if dictorship in the SimulationDescriptors[Government].xml file.

I suspect the CandidateCountPerPopulation in the same file is the origin of the changes you see between the 4 regimes.

Democracy = 3

Dictatorship = base value = 1

Empire = base value = 1

Republic forced to 1

So you got lots of candidate for a dictatorship, in combinaison with this *3 for RepresentativeWithoutPartyInSenateCount.

Maybe there is also a glitch in Unity and how CandidateCountPerPopulation works there.

My intuition says there might be a rounding number issue in Unity in the (system population / candidatecountperpopulation) value somewhere there.

If the game rounds this to the disadvantage of the party in power, then you would have -5 mean approval per system on top of this (because 15-5 = 10, mean is 5).

That's because dictatorships calculate packs of 15 bonus/malus and other regimes calculate packs of 5. If it was (say) packs of 0.1, the difference would be minimal.

Plus, maybe those bonus/malus are way to strong too so there might be a balance issue with it:

Currently the less disapproval regimes is the Democracy. They get 3x less candidates and only a -5 from each dude that contest the leading party.

Worse is dicatorship, they get a lot of candidates and each gives -15 for each dude that contest the leading party.

So democracy get 300% less disaproval than a dictatorship.

- dictatorship get lots of candidates

- they attached a -15 malus if a candidate is against the leading political party

- there might be a rounding issue in unity

- and there may be a balance issue.

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About how RepresentativeWithoutPartyInSenateCount works:

The thing is since the election is calculation heavy, the process is in Unity so the details of this process and the result exports for RepresentativeWithoutPartyInSenateCount is not known atm.

I had hint that is is a clamp of the representative list.

I think it may be number #2 + number #3 (https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/forum/114-bug-reports/thread/23541-wrong-morale-modifier-from-representatives-in-the-senate?page=1#post-225919).