Dreadnaught looks like the shield helicarrier!

Refuel wrote:

Dreadnaught looks like the shield helicarrier!

ikr, that's why it looks awesome.

No way cultists died, they're probably just buried under all that ice, waiting for a chance to break free

The design gives an impression of something strong/firm but they are my least favorite ships. Could have used something more special.

A little off the discussion.

I think the prologue and other unique art for the Vaulters are the best in all Endless series. Especially faction selection Zolya art is absolutely beautiful. Although the lipsync for her few lines is kinda off. I hope they fix this. I saw once now I can't just unsee it.

About Cultist I don't think they would bring as a major faction but as a minor faction, I can see it.

fdjw88 wrote:

what!? no!! my favorite race...the cultist, they died out!!?? god damn it that is sad. where did the game say they died? i play cultist many times in Endless Legend and i always finished the faction quest, it never mentioned they died out during the Endless Winter. 

how about the other races? like the Rovering Clan, Broken Lords and Necrophages and etc. ? 

[LORE SPOILERS] 

When you play Endless Space 1 and Endless Space 2 you find Auriga, once a Temperate/Fertile Planet as an Icy tomb. This implies that nothing was able to survive/adapt to the Endless Winter that eventually overtook the planet. 

Furthermore, the Vaulters  (and the Sisters of Mercy) seem to be the only ones who were able to successfully travel off the planet since they had the Argosy. You could say anyone faction made it off on the Grey Owl in the competitive-end game quest, however, that was blown up by the Lost narrator in the Endless Space 2 trailer. 

Furthermore, the only two factions that had technology to survive the Endless winter would have been Allayi (due to their natural affinity with Auriga) however, this is unlikely as they are never mentioned after Endless Legend and since Auriga died, it's implied that they died with it, and then the Vaulters, who survived the Endless winter in their underground Vaults and cities and eventually reverse-engineered Endless technology to make their way off of the planet. 

There were Craver habitats on Auriga, and so technically the Cravers did survive (since there were more in the galaxy) but those on Auriga probably died off. 

The Necrophages did plant eggs to survive the Endless winter, however, it is unknown if those eggs survived. 

None of the other races had the technology or ability to survive the winter, nor are they mentioned in any of the other games (except for a Broken Lords Hero in Endless Space 1). 

Also the Allayi Main Quest states that the pearls are in fact, the "last drop of Auriga's blood".

And since Auriga is a Lost, and she's dying, almost everything on the planet not used to extremely cold temperatures and living underground would die. 

Just bought the Vaulter DLC, it is currently on sale on Steam for only 9.89 USD. I have to say the Vaulter ships look abs stunning, the best looking ships so far in the game, especially their dreadnaught. Althought I didn't spend too much time playing Endless Space 1, but I do know the Vaulters from Endless Legend, and know that they come from space. Can't wait to play them!

Also, I'm wondering if Cultist will ever enter the space race as well. since in their intro vid, they stated that they were created by the Endless, and conquerign the Universer is their destiny. Man, it will be cool if the Cultist will be added in the future, they were my favorite faction in Endless Legend. 

You could argue that actually. Reverse engineering Endless technology is the deus ex machina that could work for every race on Auriga. 

Theres also the possibility that the explosion of the grey owl ripped a few more holes in the time space continuum where others escaped.

Maybe theres still Necrophages eggs somewhere under the crust of auriga?

etc. The list could go on.

It's purely down to what kind of narrative you wanna spin.

The fact that the other factions are never mentioned does not confirm that they all died with their planet but serves exactly the purpose of leaving it open.

I don't know if the Cultist can truely die. because in their intro vid, they look like a much of broker puppet surrouding the Endless Tomb. and when you look at the Cultist heors, there is no way a humna or any other faction in the game could have a neck that long. they really appear to be bunch of broken puppets that were put back together by something or someone. maybe they are just frozen with this Endless winter, and when the ice melt, they will come back! haha!

fdjw88 wrote:

I don't know if the Cultist can truely die. because in their intro vid, they look like a much of broker puppet surrouding the Endless Tomb. and when you look at the Cultist heors, there is no way a humna or any other faction in the game could have a neck that long. they really appear to be bunch of broken puppets that were put back together by something or someone. maybe they are just frozen with this Endless winter, and when the ice melt, they will come back! haha!

The only cultists who are not sentient beings found in a race on Auriga (think Drakken, Humans, Gauran, Allayi, Morgwar, etc) are the Eternal Queen and the Unspoken. The others are actually humans in suits of armor. The "neck" is actually where the head would have been in the suit of armor, it's just a really large helmet, you can tell when the Cultists Archers fire or even in the quest art that depicts the Cultists, they look with their "neck" and not with the giant headpiece. Other than that their bodies are pretty proportionate to taller humans, their armor is just designed in a way that gives them "alien" Esq looks. 

This also has to do with how the Cultists were formed. They were simply (human) believers in the Eternal Queen since it was a remanent of the Endless experiments on Auriga, and practically indestructible by any physical means (at least in the Medieval Age the Cultists were in). 

The puppets are just the suits of armor that reflect how the Queens Sarcophagus/Coffin looked, since they were fanatic believers in it. 

Also how they recruit more followers to the Cultist belief and recruit soldiers is shown in the main quest, since they aren't a unique race, but rather humans and humanoids who believe in one faith. They are also seen to enslave larger sentient beings such as Gauran and Rumblers. 

Hence the Narrator of the Cultists Main Quest donning the mask of one of the Soldiers since he passed the trials (although few of the soldiers really wear their masks directly on their face). 

This isn't to say that the Eternal Queen didn't die, more than likely she survived, as she has survived millennia before the creation of the cult, and clearly cannot, nor does not need to consume food/water. 

It's likely she's a form of Robot or AI construct, which is why she has survived since the Endless and hates them so much. 

(So the cultists could appear in a different form, as may be the Queen creates a new cult if she is ever found)

CountBlue wrote:

You could argue that actually. Reverse engineering Endless technology is the deus ex machina that could work for every race on Auriga. 

Theres also the possibility that the explosion of the grey owl ripped a few more holes in the time space continuum where others escaped.

Maybe theres still Necrophages eggs somewhere under the crust of auriga?

etc. The list could go on.

It's purely down to what kind of narrative you wanna spin.

The fact that the other factions are never mentioned does not confirm that they all died with their planet but serves exactly the purpose of leaving it open . 

As much as I'd like to spin the narrative past what has been written and heavily implied in the Endless Legend -> Endless Space 2 multiverse, no other faction was as technologically adept as the Vaulters (it's even said in the ES2 quest that they were the scientific giants of Auriga), and since the Vaulters were the only faction in the game with prior experience and knowledge of space-age technology, it's likely they were the only ones who had made it off Auriga in large enough numbers to still consider them a faction. Furthermore, when you discover the Foundlings (the second wave of Vaulters that survived and left Auriga), the quest only indicates that the Vaulters had survived, even after you search Auriga high and low for any signs of life. 

And yes there is the possibility that the Grey Owl ripped holes into different dimensions and somehow the other species on the ship made it into these other Dimensions, however, they would then never make an appearance in Endless Space 2, b/c I doubt Amplitude is going to reuse the Riftborn concept a second time, after all the factions they come up with all have unique and different backgrounds. 

I already highlighted the possibility of Necrophage eggs being planted, but there would be no reason to bring them back, as at that point the now Space-Age Vaulters would annihilate their old foe, and there already is a consumption based species. 

The Roving Clans, Ardent Mages, Wild Walkers, and the Morgwar would all die due to their inability to adapt to such a cold climate, while the Broken Lords would either go into some sort of stasis, but most likely die off due to the lack of souls they can drain, and the fact that Ice-class planets are nearly drained of dust. The Allayi may have survived but there is no indicator or reason for them to be kept in the current story as they are directly tied to Auriga and only Auriga (though Allayi ships would be dope asf). The Drakken (one of my favorites) may have survived in small, small numbers since some could adapt to the cold climate, but not enough in any significant way and food would be a problem. The Forgotten could have made it off by sneaking onto/into the Argosy or the Vaulter underground cities and some of the Vaulter Ghosts are similar to them in many ways but otherwise, they had no way of surviving the Endless Winter. 

Jeff Spock did say that much of the Endless Lore is up for debate, as each person's game represents one of the thousands of different multiverses, but I just listed things that were already stated, or are so heavily implied that there is little to no reason that the DEVs would change the implied storyline so far.  

Most of the factions had means of survival for the Endless winter... The lore is open ended enought so that any faction isn´t exactly doomed.

[SPOILERS]

Vaulter scaped with the Argosy

Ardent Mages virtualised themselves

Wild Walkers build a very huge tower for their protection

Broken Lords would get frozen. But you can ressurect Broken Lords heroes with Dust...

Necrophages stored their eggs everywhere

The Queen  of the Cultists is very well protected and can survive the winter

The Allayi mastered winter survival

Some Forgotten could be infiltrated on surviving Vaulters bunkers as spies

Drakken, Roving Clans and Morgawr are the factions without much explanation on how they could survive...

fdjw88 wrote:

what!? no!! my favorite race...the cultist, they died out!!?? god damn it that is sad. where did the game say they died? i play cultist many times in Endless Legend and i always finished the faction quest, it never mentioned they died out during the Endless Winter. 

how about the other races? like the Rovering Clan, Broken Lords and Necrophages and etc. ? 

All dead. RIP. Sorry friend. :(