which things would make you abandon the early game?

davea

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 3:00:45 PM

Seldion wrote:
I find administrator heroes to be utterly useless.

Really? Even the +25 industry bonus and the +10% industry bonus? I can't live without them.

venard

Vodyani

venard

Vodyani

25 100g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 9:07:08 AM

I played for about 10 games, and now make a new one if have a lone planet in home system, and if there is 2 clear battle hero, I don't know, but u don't need 2 of them at the game start u need clear administrator or administrator-commander (mb pilot) too fast lvl it up and get admin lvling...

Sacru

Old Timer

Sacru

Old Timer

24 500g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 9:19:30 AM

The starting star system and heroes should be a reflection of WHY this particular race is a potential galaxy super power. A really crappy planet and no obvious legendary members of the race makes for an unlikely situation of them rising to power...which is true in a sense of the game and not just story and so is why I tend to abandon the game early if the start is poor.

I am hoping the customisation to races (as is promised on release version) will also have options of tweaking the starting planet/system similar to masters of orion.

L22

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L22

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 9:28:05 AM

I don't usually abandon the game. It is when I've lost or looks like I am going to get my ass kicked in next ten turns. I go in again and try to beat the same setup. Persistence for the win!

Dumuzii

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Dumuzii

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4 000g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 10:35:06 AM

Too many poor systems nearby

AngleWyrm

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AngleWyrm

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 11:21:30 AM

No administrator Hero is a deal breaker. You absolutely have to get that +25 production bonus early on.

Sebbers

Newcomer

Sebbers

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 11:30:20 AM

Picked other. I never abandon a system for any reason. Relaoding games is pretty much just cheating- it's no different from hex editing your dust to 10000 at the beginning of the game.

Jashbeast

Stellar Sheredyn

Jashbeast

Stellar Sheredyn

23 800g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 2:15:59 PM

I've got to say, I don't like restarting either, usually because it's my fault and I've done something stupid that I really shouldn't have done!

That being said, I'm sure if I'm surrounded by other expansive factions then that would probly annoy me enough to consider a restart

Khaz

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Khaz

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 2:25:21 PM

I never restart, a game. Its part of the fun to over come limitations and completely destroy the opposition.

wizbro

Old Survivor

i dont know what im doing

wizbro

Old Survivor

29 000g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 8:35:04 AM

id stop if i was getting owned by pirates

davea

Newcomer

davea

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 12, 2012, 2:32:23 PM

I had thought that lack of T-70 would be a bigger problem. It blocks the first tier missile, which is moderately inconvenient. But lack of cruisers seems more fatal. Maybe people are willing to wait longer, and explore more, to find T-70. So it does not cause abandoning in the *early* game.

Sm31415

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Sm31415

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 12, 2012, 3:34:27 PM

To admit defeat is to blaspheme against the Emperor.

Success is commemorated; Failure merely remembered.

Never Give Up!!!! To The Last Man!!!

jazzmiq

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jazzmiq

Newcomer

29 400g2g pts

13 years ago

May 12, 2012, 3:40:41 PM

a challenging start should not be a problem, harder game are interesting sometimes.

Jashbeast

Stellar Sheredyn

Jashbeast

Stellar Sheredyn

23 800g2g pts

13 years ago

May 12, 2012, 3:41:00 PM

I'm reading this now as more of a list of excuses if you get beaten in multiplayer

davea

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davea

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 12, 2012, 4:18:01 PM

LOL. I intended the poll to find out which "new game" characteristics are the most annoying, so that map generation can be tuned.

Wothan

Newcomer

Wothan

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 12, 2012, 4:22:29 PM

I generally quit if my home world is in the center of the galaxy and there are a shitton of strings connecting to him

Ebrim

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Ebrim

Newcomer

12 000g2g pts

13 years ago

May 12, 2012, 4:46:38 PM

Other - I don't abandon a game. So my starting location isn't ideal, that's a unique challenge. Bring it on! Also in my current game there's only one system in the galaxy with Trit-70 (it's tiny, resource poor) - which I don't own. Good, make me adapt.

Deltron3O3O

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Deltron3O3O

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10 300g2g pts

13 years ago

May 12, 2012, 5:07:06 PM

if i can't find Titanium-70 near by i usually leave cuz i can't make that one ship... probably doesn't matter once u get the battleships.

2nd for me would be poor home system.

Olimar

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Olimar

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 6:41:26 AM

other -> when i do something bone-headed.. the other factors dont bug me as much

Antulamatsch

Newcomer

Antulamatsch

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 5:55:17 AM

A poor start system (And only one planet

)

Satrack

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Satrack

Newcomer in Disguise

18 600g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 6:00:40 AM

Too many times have I left the game because of only one or two starting planets. All I need is a good starting zone 4 or more is my standard

Maclardal

Newcomer

Maclardal

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 6:02:45 AM

Lacking a couple of good admin heroes on a big map can be key. Especially if not playing as Horatio!

Christophe_Degoy

Newcomer

Christophe_Degoy

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 6:06:55 AM

Actually none of the options. Or maybe poor star system, but well did the same in all those random galaxy worlds in previous 4X so not really new

Early drop means no challenge on the other hand. Titanium-70 only is enough to drive you to expand your empire so that you have those shiny cruisers, i dont see it much as a limitation if not nearby (played huge galaxy so far, had to travel a few constellations to find some but that's part of the fun)

Pirates might be a nuisance too, but you really must be unlucky

Skurkanas

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Skurkanas

Newcomer

11 200g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 6:22:59 AM

Actually, a poor start system doesn't bother me all that much. Most races at least have a >6 pop home planet, which is enough to get the first few colony ships up.

What really get's me to restart is if the other systems in my constellation are poor as well, and/or very far apart.

GrimFrame

Old Sheredyn

GrimFrame

Old Sheredyn

20 000g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 6:24:47 AM

Only game I've dropped so far I was surrounded by AI within 30 turns(maybe a colony ship mass production bug?). I had 6 systems with a total planet count of around 15 overall and none were what I would even call bearable. So yea I dropped that one pretty quick.

VIPSharidann

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VIPSharidann

Newcomer

16 500g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 6:25:59 AM

I miss an option here, namely ... nothing ... I like a challenge

Kaminali

Forgotten

Kaminali

Forgotten

33 400g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 6:29:00 AM

+1 for poor start system, it's an unbalancing start.

davea

Newcomer

davea

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 5:52:10 AM

After I have played a few turns, I will sometimes abandon a game if it doesn't "look good". Which things would make you abandon the early game?

ArrowLance

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ArrowLance

Newcomer

200g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 7:08:34 AM

I don't always restart if there is no administrator, but damn they are important.

madgiraf

Newcomer

madgiraf

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 7:10:58 AM

Apart from getting smashed early, nothing.

liq3

Newcomer

liq3

Newcomer

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 7:15:15 AM

Nothing. I prefer not using magic time traveling abilities (i.e. save/load/newgame). Half the fun is dealing with what ever disadvantages you get. :] And then every once and a while you get some perfect systems, and just cry at how beautiful they are (and how badly you're going to smash everyone into space dust).

White_Mage

Enthusiast

White_Mage

Enthusiast

13 100g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 7:18:37 AM

Other -> I typically create a very important goal early on which ties in with the problem of other races being too close.

If there's a bottleneck near a huge expanse of systems near me I try to close it immediately to avoid incursion by another race. A lot of times I may just restart the game if I can't take this system and it seems that my opponent's growth may go unchecked and overwhelm me

Gordon

Newcomer

Gordon

Newcomer

200g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 7:37:14 AM

I there is no Titanium-70 nearby, bye-bye game. Also, if I get no heroes at all, that is bad.

StK

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StK

Newcomer

300g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 7:42:52 AM

What always makes me restart is a terrible starting Area so not only the starting system but everything around me.. if there is nothing worth colonizing in 3 turns radius around my starting system I will restart.

And on a huge map where I don't have a administrator hero I will restart as well on small maps I don't really mind.

@Gordon If you get no heroes at all you need to restart the whole game (close ES and start it again) seems to be a bug after you started 4-5 games in the same instance of the game (At least it happens to me this way) I recognized that while writing some threads where I had to look up the specials for all the races and then I tried it out to verify.

Gordon

Newcomer

Gordon

Newcomer

200g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 8:06:15 AM

StK wrote:
@Gordon If you get no heroes at all you need to restart the whole game (close ES and start it again) seems to be a bug after you started 4-5 games in the same instance of the game (At least it happens to me this way) I recognized that while writing some threads where I had to look up the specials for all the races and then I tried it out to verify.

I know.. You still have to quit the game.

Seldion

Newcomer

Seldion

Newcomer

4 000g2g pts

13 years ago

May 11, 2012, 8:17:57 AM

I find administrator heroes to be utterly useless and rather have heroes to command my fleet.

Even if they are admit heroes i still put them on my fleets, the bonuses aren't enough to level them towards planet use as the bonus you get for a hero that's leveled towards warfare.

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