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Why so many wormholes?

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Zplintz

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Zplintz

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 7:14:50 AM

AngleWyrm wrote:
And for another, I kind of liked them as an uncommon separator between constellations, an interstellar choke point instead of just a random replacement for a string line.

/agreed - but then I am a lightweight and being able to capture a constellation before having to deal with another faction suits me. I expect there are a lot of people who will prefer it though.

I chose huge map with 4 arms last time - that may explain the additional wormholes - but I had chosen the 4 arms because in previous games it seemed more likely to produce isolated constellations.

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Gargomaxthalus

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13 years ago

May 18, 2012, 5:41:57 PM

Fanoffi wrote:
Strangely enough I haven't found a single wormhole, or maybe it's because they're invisible. Never seen one and all I know is that I need some specific tech to travel through them.

They look like a jet's vapor trail, instead of a simple line.

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Anchorite

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Anchorite

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13 years ago

May 18, 2012, 11:56:22 AM

There are certainly more Wormholes now. I just started a game and got stuck with an AI in an isolated patch of 4 systems with like 6 wormholes leading out. Poor AI never had a chance

. It certainly spices up the beginning of a game and makes early race for WH tech a must.

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Divine_Moments_of_Truth

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13 years ago

May 18, 2012, 8:46:59 AM

I've noticed it right afer Alpha 2 came out. It just feels like 'average of 3 wormholes per constellation' means 'average of 7 wormholes per constellation' now.

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13 years ago

May 18, 2012, 8:41:42 AM

Jaimoe wrote:
I can't seem to start a game without at LEAST one, and more often two or three, wormholes connected to my starting system. Before the patch, I'd be lucky to have more than a couple on an entire map. Is this a bug with the new patch or is this the way it is supposed to be?

The number of wormholes did increase indeed with the new update, creating some pathfinding issue that some people have reported.

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Fanoffi

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May 18, 2012, 7:25:58 AM

Strangely enough I haven't found a single wormhole, or maybe it's because they're invisible. Never seen one and all I know is that I need some specific tech to travel through them.

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Zplintz

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Zplintz

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13 years ago

May 18, 2012, 6:54:10 AM

Hey I really like the number of wormholes now that you can properly blockade one. Having a great time in my current game, managed to choke of half the map from the 3 AI players before any of their scouts even showed themselves (and then I just destroyed each one before they managed to get a look at my empire.

Great game and getting better.

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Jaimoe

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Jaimoe

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 10:58:00 PM

Update, disk galaxies can have wormholes.

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Jaimoe

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Jaimoe

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 9:21:23 PM

Thanks for the replies guys! I like that there's a workaround but I suppose I'll just try playing on disk maps for now, til the next update.

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KnightHawk

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KnightHawk

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 9:46:21 AM

Open the game save bin with 7zip, choose edit, do Ctrl+F, type Save. Then say ok for 7zip. Reload the game save.

Beat me too it

It's a good temporary workaround and if you spend some time you can figure our which one is which if there are specific ones you want to ditch.

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Mansen

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Mansen

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 9:36:50 AM

Yeah, it has gone to an extreme. On the "clashing galaxies" type map I had a 4 sun constellation with at least 9 wormholes leading out of it. Two systems had 3 and 4 wormholes each O.o

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Jaimoe

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Jaimoe

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May 17, 2012, 2:48:50 AM

I can't seem to start a game without at LEAST one, and more often two or three, wormholes connected to my starting system. Before the patch, I'd be lucky to have more than a couple on an entire map. Is this a bug with the new patch or is this the way it is supposed to be?

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Blindpatriot

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Blindpatriot

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 6:43:34 AM

Wormholes separate constellations, the less constellations you have the less wormholes you have. I think the map type effects this too. Just playing the Unique setting on constellations will get rid of all the wormholes.

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AngleWyrm

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AngleWyrm

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 6:40:41 AM

zdesert wrote:
whats wrong with wormholes? they are defenceable, good as borders between races, and excellent late game for movement around the galaxy very fast.

Well for one, Wormhole pathfinding is borked.

And for another, I kind of liked them as an uncommon separator between constellations, an interstellar choke point instead of just a random replacement for a string line.

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Zplintz

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Zplintz

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 4:40:33 AM

I thought I had fluked out until I tried again and saw this post.

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 4:33:19 AM

Jaimoe wrote:
I even have it set for low wormholes, and I still can't get a starting system without at least one.

If you are using a spiral map, you probably want some wormholes to allows travel between the constellations. If you want no wormholes, try the disk map. That one is guaranteed to have no wormholes. I haven't tried all the others yet.

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mokaiba

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mokaiba

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 4:32:49 AM

Jaimoe wrote:
I'm not looking for maps with no wormholes but they seem to have gone from one extreme to the other. I don't want my home system to always have at least one and more likely more of them. It seems to me that it will force your home system to be a choke point in the mid game section where you can use wormholes but can't yet travel between non connected stars. That might be cool in some situations, but I don't like the idea of that being the case in almost every(if not every) game. I've tried restarting my game so many times I can't even count and I've yet to roll a start without at least one wormhole in the starting system.

Open the game save bin with 7zip, choose edit, do Ctrl+F, type Save. Then say ok for 7zip. Reload the game save.

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Jaimoe

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May 17, 2012, 3:08:40 AM

I'm not looking for maps with no wormholes but they seem to have gone from one extreme to the other. I don't want my home system to always have at least one and more likely more of them. It seems to me that it will force your home system to be a choke point in the mid game section where you can use wormholes but can't yet travel between non connected stars. That might be cool in some situations, but I don't like the idea of that being the case in almost every(if not every) game. I've tried restarting my game so many times I can't even count and I've yet to roll a start without at least one wormhole in the starting system.

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zdesert

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zdesert

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 3:02:24 AM

whats wrong with wormholes? they are defenceable, good as borders between races, and excellent late game for movement around the galaxy very fast.

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VitunSuoPaska

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VitunSuoPaska

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 2:58:01 AM

It seems they did increase the odds of wormholes appearing in Alpha 2.

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Jaimoe

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Jaimoe

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13 years ago

May 17, 2012, 2:52:02 AM

I even have it set for low wormholes, and I still can't get a starting system without at least one.

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