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13 years ago

May 5, 2012, 10:46:50 PM

I'd like to see this feature implemented.

I'd also like to see various different conditions under which a pirate would agree to co-operate with you.

Given the difficulty of the task that you assign them with, they should be able to ask you anything; from a set amount of Dust/Resources to a planet/solar system.

Further down the road maybe you could pit pirates against each other or even legalize them and integrate them in your empire as a "legitimate" fleet.

That would spice things up a bit imo, especially in "pacifist"/trade focused playthroughs.

Imagine starting out with a focus on expansion/trade. You make a "muscle" fleet just in case things get hairy. You manage to hit a few goldmines and you get to hire a few pirates (that you managed to keep at bay with that aforementioned muscle fleet) and you send them early on, to cut off some of your enemies' trade/suply lines.

Your enemy has no other option but sign a treaty with you.

You then proceed to use their talents as you see fit (+racial bonuses or access to enemy conducted researches for example).

You'll have to excuse me for getting carried away here for a sec, but from the 13hrs that i got to spend with the game so far i see that it holds tremendous potential.

One that i'd like to see it, at least approach, if not meet.

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CmdrNoval

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CmdrNoval

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13 years ago

Jul 20, 2012, 5:55:04 AM

smiley: approval

Diplomatic Contact with Pirates

smiley: approval

Balancing Pirate Military Strength (comparable to other races current strength)

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gameshoes

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gameshoes

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13 years ago

Jul 20, 2012, 4:25:50 AM

Could be fun.

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mental252

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mental252

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13 years ago

Jul 19, 2012, 10:07:14 PM

That's an awesome idea.

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Obak

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Obak

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13 years ago

Jul 19, 2012, 8:17:56 PM

For all the faults that Sins of a solar empire had, pirate bounties where not one.

When playing multiplayer games, I often like to use underhanded tactics, secret alliances, funding both sides in wars, tech trading with the underdogs and so on.

The most important part of this strategy is not to get caugth with the hand in the cookie jar, thus funding intergalactic terrorists (pirates) would fit in very neatly with a more cloak-and-dagegr style of multi player gaming.

For those not aquainted with Sins of a solar emipre its really easy. Each player has a tag labled Bounty, at any time any player can add any amount of money to this Bounty. At certain intervalls everyone gets a notification that a pirate raid is imminent (this often leads to drastic jumps in the bounty ammount as everyone tries to out-bid each other). A few minutes later the raid is launched and the pirates attacks a system belonging the player with the highest bounty on his head. The size of the pirate fleet varies with the size of the bounty.

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MODNosferatiel

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MODNosferatiel

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13 years ago

Jun 10, 2012, 11:10:22 AM

This thread is the origin of discussions about hiring/bribing pirates/mercenaries.

Other threads about this have been archived:

/#/endless-space/forum/29-archives/thread/13299-sell-ships-mercenary-flotillas.

/#/endless-space/forum/29-archives/thread/13539-suggestion-hiring-mercenaries

/#/endless-space/forum/29-archives/thread/13538-suggestion-increasing-the-depth-for-the-pirates

/#/endless-space/forum/29-archives/thread/13629-suggestion-mercenaries

/#/endless-space/forum/29-archives/thread/13631-suggestion-make-pirates-more-like-mercenaries.

Feel free to post here about this topic here and inform yourself about the variations the threads listed above have already discussed, but don't open new suggestion threads for anything alike.

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Ghost

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13 years ago

May 7, 2012, 11:52:00 AM

this is a nice idea but on the other hand they will have there base/ system guard to hell and then if its just you and another player then one way you would still get attacked and to take them out would take a massive fleet so you can take over what they have taken. plus it would be nice to play as a pirate if they get base/ system pirates are just BA in my opinion. =P

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Inquisitioner

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13 years ago

May 6, 2012, 3:17:04 PM

Reminds me a lot about Sins of a Solar Empire. There you can but a bounty on an enemy empire, once they go out to raid and pillage they'll go for the one with the highest bounty. You can also with the expansion pack send them to attack a specific planet that belongs to an empire and choose how much money you will put into the mission. The more you put, the more ships they'll send. But bribing individual pirates should only grant you temporarily passage on a system that they hover over at the moment. Paying em to join you or so seems kinda pointless as they're pirates in order to be free of empire service.

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Sofiel

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Sofiel

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13 years ago

May 6, 2012, 1:47:07 PM

Though I hate to simply say "I agree", everything I would have said has been said by Clok. This sounds like an amazing idea and I do hope it's implemented. Otherwise, as people have touched on, the pirates will simply be a minor annoyance.

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Gordon

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Gordon

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13 years ago

May 6, 2012, 12:40:44 PM

Great to see some support

I really think, as said above, that this would indeed add some depth.

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hlemmur

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13 years ago

May 6, 2012, 6:15:33 AM

I agree that this would offer depth. The other thing about pirates that annoys me is that when they orbit a colony with no ships they seem to just sit there until you bring fleets up to destroy them. I would like to see them steal dust, blockade or even invade the planet depending on their relative strength. Planets captured by pirates could be the aforementioned bases.

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Mutinet

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13 years ago

May 6, 2012, 2:36:18 AM

+1

Really good idea that would add more depth to the game.

I would like to see a home base maybe where you could hire ships for straight up dust.

Also instead of a home-world maybe a large space station lying around in space. Then factions could contest over it leading to a potential killing field and an optional goal that in the long run could pay off.

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DuddBudda

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DuddBudda

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13 years ago

May 5, 2012, 10:48:00 PM

this is an interesting mechanic no doubt, but having played only one game so far - in which the pirates and raiders have all-but-wiped-out two of the AIs and continually send sufficient fleets against me to keep my military completely quashed, despite my having churned out warships exclusively for the last thirty turns - I see balancing pirates as a far higher priority for the devs than bribing them

not least because bribing these pirates would be game-winning

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Gordon

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Gordon

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13 years ago

May 5, 2012, 7:16:34 PM

I'm sure that when pirates attack you, you get a little angry. Especially when there are other targets they could concentrate on. Like your enemies and allies.

But one thing I think would be cool, is that the pirates get a home system, or base, where you can go bringing gifts. Here you can bribe them to secretly attack your enemies, or allies if you want to. What do you think?

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SirNitram

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SirNitram

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13 years ago

May 5, 2012, 10:14:20 PM

Bribing pirates would be a really cool feature and make a moer peaceful approach more valuable

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Gordon

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Gordon

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13 years ago

May 5, 2012, 8:45:44 PM

The option to have a "Privateer" ship, that you control and can attack anyone seems intriguing. Great Idea!

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BlazerMortis

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BlazerMortis

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13 years ago

May 5, 2012, 8:13:09 PM

Nickolaeris wrote:
Well, I can offer great idea (IMHO) - what about "Privateer" ship type? YOUR ship looking like pirate, which can attack ANY players, even allies, but everyone will count it like pirate.

that's a really good idea, nick. adds a level of intrigue i guess? bribing pirates would be sweet...because they can be annoying. haha. the diplomatic side of this game has lots of potential that i hope isn't wasted.

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Gordon

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Gordon

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13 years ago

May 5, 2012, 7:57:37 PM

Merku wrote:
This sounds like a combination of how pirates are handled in Distant Worlds, Sins, and Civilization. Certainly worth thinking about. It would give them a bit more meaning besides harassing my newly formed colonies and waiting for my fleets to show up to grind them into dust...

Exactly why I proposed this. I know its still just alpha, but it would be nice if the pirates would have more use.

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13 years ago

May 5, 2012, 7:55:51 PM

This sounds like a combination of how pirates are handled in Distant Worlds, Sins, and Civilization. Certainly worth thinking about. It would give them a bit more meaning besides harassing my newly formed colonies and waiting for my fleets to show up to grind them into dust...

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Nickolaeris

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13 years ago

May 5, 2012, 7:50:18 PM

Well, I can offer great idea (IMHO) - what about "Privateer" ship type? YOUR ship looking like pirate, which can attack ANY players, even allies, but everyone will count it like pirate.

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