I hope this is no double post.



The "Win" Declariation in Endless Space ist in my opion far to soon.



In One of my Games the System say's i will be defeate as one of my oponent has the max resarch completed.

This may be true but i am currently the one that rules the galaxy and destroy all incoming fleets as i have more planets more ships and full access to Technology.



So the declaration of win is obvisly wrong as technolgy is not all.



My suggestions is also too reconsider the win declarition.



I think it should be 3 Win Scenario.



1.st Military kill them all or eleminate all others without your allies

2.nd Diplomatic like Master of Orion you should could elect a leader after you have contacted all aviable races on the galaxy map.

the wind value could be taken to calculate the number of votes you have.

3.rd eleminate a major thread ? like master of orion II.





Including this suggestion is that in my opinion the resarche is to shoot there should be a way to continouy improve the resarch after the original resarch is completed.



regards

Shodanki



yes of course i like MOO II too much i know .

There are already multiple win conditions as you describe, including expansion (control of a large enough portion of the galaxy), supremacy (conquer all the opposing factions' homeworlds), science (research the "final" tech on the right side tree, which is drastically reduced in price by researching the "final" tech in each of the other trees), wonder (build 5 copies of the wonder unlocked by the final tech in the lower tree), diplomatic (gather enough "diplomacy points" earned from diplomatic status with the other factions throughout the game), dust (simply earn - not accumulate - enough total dust over the course of the game), and finally score (top score after 300 turns, assuming no other victory condition has been met by any faction prior to this point). All of these can be enabled or disabled in the advanced difficulty settings when starting a new game, so you are free to disable say, the science victory condition, if you are tired of being out-teched to victory even when you have galactic dominance :P