Taliesyn wrote:
Not if you use the same seed. The ONLY things that change when you use the same seed and game options are what random races are picked and which three heroes you get.

I know that. Would be interesting to know how to change your starting position.

Not if you use the same seed. The ONLY things that change when you use the same seed and game options are what random races are picked and which three heroes you get.

I always had the same identical map if I choose a specific seed.



Another question: can i change my starting position? You always spawn on the same homesystem, no matter which race, color or amount of enemies you pick.

As I said, I didn't change any of the defaults, just typed in the seed number ;-)



See, I am a total imbecile. I just figured that if you put in a seed number, it would use it. Apparently not, though. Just tested with that tick box unticked, et viola. Of course that does bring up the suggestion of greying out the 'Galaxy Generation Seed' box and not letting any text get typed into it while the 'Random Galaxy Generation Seed' option is ticked. Might be a simple interface tweak that stops other people making the same mistake. Dunno. What do you devs think?

Titan wrote:
I'm using the default Spiral-2 tiny map, two player (human vs AI), normal age, difficulty and play speed, and even using the same factions (Amoeba vs AI United Empire). Seed number 1551020444. It even keeps the seed in the 'seed' field under Advanced options (which is handy) so there's no chance of a typo. Just took screen grabs of two start games under those identical conditions and they're definitely different in very significant ways, though they share similarities.



Can someone else test this to prove I'm not a total imbecile, please?

Here's a silly question for you while I test this myself: Have you turned off 'use random seed' in the options?



Edit: Tested your seed, same settings as you, made sure 'random seed' was turned off. Five different games, identical galaxy every single time.

I'm using the default Spiral-2 tiny map, two player (human vs AI), normal age, difficulty and play speed, and even using the same factions (Amoeba vs AI United Empire). Seed number 1551020444. It even keeps the seed in the 'seed' field under Advanced options (which is handy) so there's no chance of a typo. Just took screen grabs of two start games under those identical conditions and they're definitely different in very significant ways, though they share similarities.



Can someone else test this to prove I'm not a total imbecile, please?

Titan wrote:
Genius, sir! Thank you so much.



EDIT: Interestingly, after running a few tests with the Amoeba (so I can see the whole map from turn 1), it's clear that a seed doesn't define all parameters of a map. The same seed might in one game give more star systems on one side of a central wormhole than the other, for instance, but give an even number of systems in another. You might get a great start system in one game but a very tough star system in the next (using the same seed). So handing out the seed isn't a good way to share your experience and say to people, "Here, try this setup - it's well balanced for four players" or whatever.

That's interesting, as a dev said last week that if you use the seed and all the same options (other than which precise factions are played by you and the AI), the galaxies will be identical. Have you been changing ANYTHING at all?

Genius, sir! Thank you so much.



EDIT: Interestingly, after running a few tests with the Amoeba (so I can see the whole map from turn 1), it's clear that a seed doesn't define all parameters of a map. The same seed might in one game give more star systems on one side of a central wormhole than the other, for instance, but give an even number of systems in another. You might get a great start system in one game but a very tough star system in the next (using the same seed). So handing out the seed isn't a good way to share your experience and say to people, "Here, try this setup - it's well balanced for four players" or whatever.

Ok found it out by myself:



1. Get 7zip

2. Open Documents Folder/Endless Space / Save

3. Open Savegamefile with 7zip

4. Ctrl+F "Seed"



The number behind the word "Seed" is the galaxy seed number.