Ok, by just looking at the last few pages, I have probably annoyed most of the people here with my spam . The next couple days I shall not respond :*(



But I shall try to finish my Boshen and... something else I had planned to do...... anyway, finish those before I end off 3700 (any objections post below)

It's not that you're annoying us or even that you're spamming. We just find your style of editing every mistake and then putting "Edit-fix" after every fix, however minor, a bit odd and unnecessary :P





So what conclusion have we come up with regarding the giant massive mobile planet?

We found it silly, and would prefer a more conventional replacement of the actual nomadic ships the Pilgrims use or having them live aboard the fleet like the military do.

We found it interesting, and would like to see a backstory pertaining to their finding the artifact and the confusion that results from their return to regular space.(And I told you, moon sized not giant-massive)

So what's the next idea? Anyone got any big battles or political menouvers they want to share?

I am short on time ATM, But as always. I have ideas.

Alsojames wrote:
So what's the next idea? Anyone got any big battles or political menouvers they want to share?

I've got a big battle to finish off the year 3700 as I've been saying (before anyone else takes it)

Taking a break to refresh myself on Thousand Year lore so far... and done. Two ideas we can run with here before after The Carter is completed. Proxy wars on both sides of the battle.



Repercussions: The Sophons, for decades now, have been studying every inch of Zend's body and the wreckage he left behind, but are beginning to get frustrated from the lack of answers, intolerable to a species based on knowledge. A small section of Sophon space faces a schism as several Sophons begin to get disillusioned with the lack of scientific explanation, and question wether the legends might be true. Perhaps the intervention of Zend was divine, in a scientific and mathematical sort of mysticism. The conflict between the Sophon Technocracy and the Disillusioned gets unpleasant as both attempt to exert their wills on each other. While the Technocracy is clearly more powerful, the resources diverted from the Empire campaign lead to hard times for the Republic as they try to pick up the slack.



An Empire Of Rebels: The Emperor's rule has reached its second century, but despite the best efforts of the Emperor's propagandaists, the people of the Empire can clearly see that the war is not going as well as was promised. While calls for a new Emperor are silenced quickly, conspirators desiring to retake the throne have begun to crop up. No system has yet declared its opposition, but many with ties to the old bloodline have come to the surface to lead conspirators in plots against Maximilian Zelevas. The Empire is at its wits' end keeping up with a many pronged war and this new small but irritating threat. The Emperor now calls for the aid of the people, asking them to take up arms and "purge" their planets of those that would betray Humanity.



What do you think, the finishing of The Carter and The Return of the Pilgrims ends both events.

Javarino wrote:
Taking a break to refresh myself on Thousand Year lore so far... and done. Two ideas we can run with here before after The Carter is completed. Proxy wars on both sides of the battle.



Repercussions: The Sophons, for decades now, have been studying every inch of Zend's body and the wreckage he left behind, but are beginning to get frustrated from the lack of answers, intolerable to a species based on knowledge. A small section of Sophon space faces a schism as several Sophons begin to get disillusioned with the lack of scientific explanation, and question wether the legends might be true. Perhaps the intervention of Zend was divine, in a scientific and mathematical sort of mysticism. The conflict between the Sophon Technocracy and the Disillusioned gets unpleasant as both attempt to exert their wills on each other. While the Technocracy is clearly more powerful, the resources diverted from the Empire campaign lead to hard times for the Republic as they try to pick up the slack.



An Empire Of Rebels: The Emperor's rule has reached its second century, but despite the best efforts of the Emperor's propagandaists, the people of the Empire can clearly see that the war is not going as well as was promised. While calls for a new Emperor are silenced quickly, conspirators desiring to retake the throne have begun to crop up. No system has yet declared its opposition, but many with ties to the old bloodline have come to the surface to lead conspirators in plots against Maximilian Zelevas. The Empire is at its wits' end keeping up with a many pronged war and this new small but irritating threat. The Emperor now calls for the aid of the people, asking them to take up arms and "purge" their planets of those that would betray Humanity.



What do you think, the finishing of The Carter and The Return of the Pilgrims ends both events.

Proxy wars on both sides of the battle. ?

What is Return of the Pilgrims anyway?

And (not to offend you or anything :P) but I think that should be happening near the UUR border, reason? Not sure, they're trading with them? The UUR sends help when they send distress calls and the UUR asnwers why the UE ignores them, so they start seeing that the UUR aren't the terrorists they've been made out to be? (I'm slightly biased to this from Star Wars books I'm reading, sorry :P)

Javarino wrote:
Taking a break to refresh myself on Thousand Year lore so far... and done. Two ideas we can run with here before after The Carter is completed. Proxy wars on both sides of the battle.



Repercussions: The Sophons, for decades now, have been studying every inch of Zend's body and the wreckage he left behind, but are beginning to get frustrated from the lack of answers, intolerable to a species based on knowledge. A small section of Sophon space faces a schism as several Sophons begin to get disillusioned with the lack of scientific explanation, and question wether the legends might be true. Perhaps the intervention of Zend was divine, in a scientific and mathematical sort of mysticism. The conflict between the Sophon Technocracy and the Disillusioned gets unpleasant as both attempt to exert their wills on each other. While the Technocracy is clearly more powerful, the resources diverted from the Empire campaign lead to hard times for the Republic as they try to pick up the slack.

An interesting development, but the Sophons aren't known for being militarily divided.



In any case, I can't wait to see how this develops.

An Empire Of Rebels: The Emperor's rule has reached its second century, but despite the best efforts of the Emperor's propagandaists, the people of the Empire can clearly see that the war is not going as well as was promised. While calls for a new Emperor are silenced quickly, conspirators desiring to retake the throne have begun to crop up. No system has yet declared its opposition, but many with ties to the old bloodline have come to the surface to lead conspirators in plots against Maximilian Zelevas. The Empire is at its wits' end keeping up with a many pronged war and this new small but irritating threat. The Emperor now calls for the aid of the people, asking them to take up arms and "purge" their planets of those that would betray Humanity.



What do you think, the finishing of The Carter and The Return of the Pilgrims ends both events.

A second Secession?



I had a similar idea, with what the empire being ruled by large numbers of dukes, barons and corporate enterprises.



And with the empire being so vast, and the fact that it was still winning for 300 years up to this, it is about time we had a real chaos event in the empire.



Time to see what they are really made of, and to see the deployment of the entire armada of the UE, for both the loyalist side and the rebel side.

Whether they will ally with the UUR is another question, some groups might try to forge new empires, while others will simply seek independence.





......I just had a grand idea, how would you guys like to create a UE group for each of yourselves to become the major rebellious groups in this second secession? You can decide their fates and outcomes, but it might give us a really thick amount of lore for the next 100 years or so as the empire go's into full auto trying to stomp out all oppression.

Igncom1 wrote:


......I just had a grand idea, how would you guys like to create a UE group for each of yourselves to become the major rebellious groups in this second secession? You can decide their fates and outcomes, but it might give us a really thick amount of lore for the next 100 years or so as the empire go's into full auto trying to stomp out all oppression.

... Brilliant. But it's going to be difficult. It might add some more people but... we're going to just screw the UE over in the lore. Having to spread their resources to stop more than one rebellion, BUT it might add to the Empire of Rebels and have them try to overthrow the Emperor. The 3 strongest ones also dealing with just each other, talking about overthrowing the others and forming a triumvirate.

I just want to note, that both of you are suggesting additional rebellions haha! The sophon one might be a bit difficult because they are mainly a united society? And sophons believing in magic with their high levels of advancement, being a scientific race and all. I don't know, I guess I need more information?

I also figure the cultists of zend could reappear here.



But I will say that these new rebels can't over shadow the UUR, and within around 100 years they either need to be crushed, or assimilated by another power like the Horatio, Hissho or indeed the UUR.



I want blood stasik, blood for the blood god!

stasik28 wrote:
I just want to note, that both of you are suggesting additional rebellions haha! The sophon one might be a bit difficult because they are mainly a united society? And sophons believing in magic with their high levels of advancement, being a scientific race and all. I don't know, I guess I need more information?

Well the effects of the heroes does screw over what they know (Or did know) to be possible, so it is more them plausible that rational people in these hard times would go from full on atheists to worshiping a god or would be god.



Say what you will about real life religion, but Zend was physically a god when he brought down that fleet, and it is hard to dispute the evidence of his power.

Igncom1 wrote:




Say what you will about real life religion, but Zend was physically a god when he brought down that fleet, and it is hard to dispute the evidence of his power.

I don't understand what you're trying to tell me.



"But I will say that these new rebels can't over shadow the UUR, and within around 100 years they either need to be crushed, or assimilated by another power like the Horatio, Hissho or indeed the UUR.



I want blood stasik, blood for the blood god!"



We all do, we all do. But again, if they get assimilated, especially by Horatio or Hissho, that's going to hurt the UE a LOT, and they're not going to be happy to lose their systems. They aren't the imperial guard with completely endless masses :P. And the Imperium of Man never had enough ships (WE NEED AN ARTIST )

stasik28 wrote:
I don't understand what you're trying to tell me.

Even the logic and science loving Sophons could start praying to zend or one of the other heroes, because their power is unexplainable by their current science.

"But I will say that these new rebels can't over shadow the UUR, and within around 100 years they either need to be crushed, or assimilated by another power like the Horatio, Hissho or indeed the UUR.



I want blood stasik, blood for the blood god!"



We all do, we all do. But again, if they get assimilated, especially by Horatio or Hissho, that's going to hurt the UE a LOT, and they're not going to be happy to lose their systems. They aren't the imperial guard with completely endless masses :P. And the Imperium of Man never had enough ships (WE NEED AN ARTIST )

We do need an artest.



But of course as stated before, no one major faction is allowed to die until otherwise said, so even if the UE do lose systems to the Horatio Hissho and UUR, they have still yet to play the Sheydin, and there is still the possibility for the UE to into a state of total war and turn the entire empire into fleet producing monsters, and xenoside the galaxy.

Igncom1 wrote:
Even the logic and science loving Sophons could start praying to zend or one of the other heroes, because their power is unexplainable by their current science.







We do need an artest.



But of course as stated before, no one major faction is allowed to die until otherwise said, so even if the UE do lose systems to the Horatio Hissho and UUR, they have still yet to play the Sheydin, and there is still the possibility for the UE to into a state of total war and turn the entire empire into fleet producing monsters, and xenoside the galaxy.

The point of the Sophon thing was to say that many have started accepting unproven facts as truth, while the others condone them for their lack of scientific credibility. The Sophon rebellion isn't major by a long shot, but the Sophons are notoriously picky when it comes to what they perceive as truth, and to have a faction within them disagree on such a major issue is worrying. The Sophons won't draw lines in the sand and start blasting each other, but they will put considerable resources into one upping each others efforts to disprove the other, and may launch raids on science facilities to try and set each other back. That is the extent of a Sophon schism .



The UE thing is a fine balance, but it could be cool to see open unrest among several lords. The core hundred or so worlds would doubtless remain loyal, but isolated and specific groups of systems may go rogue. And that's when the Sherydan's bullets start flying... Also, we still haven't gotten the Cravers involved, they could create a sort of two front war for the Amoeba and Republic, while the Sophons are busy being completely useless to anyone but themselves.



I like the faction idea3

stasik28 wrote:
Proxy wars on both sides of the battle. ?

What is Return of the Pilgrims anyway?

And (not to offend you or anything :P) but I think that should be happening near the UUR border, reason? Not sure, they're trading with them? The UUR sends help when they send distress calls and the UUR asnwers why the UE ignores them, so they start seeing that the UUR aren't the terrorists they've been made out to be? (I'm slightly biased to this from Star Wars books I'm reading, sorry :P)

I started with the idea of proxy wars started to distract both the Empire and the Republic, but the idea went south when I realized how little races the Empire could influence with their xenophobia.



Return of the Pilgrims is when the Pilgrims return from the void like we were discussing before, exact enhancements uncertain at this time.



The point of these new rebels is not that they want to join with the Republic, they want to become Emperor. This is less a difference in ideals than a difference in who they think should lead all of humanity to greatness. (They also are xenophobic, autocratic, single-minded arseholes, just not Maximilian)



And don't worry, Star Wars gets the best of all of us.

Javarino wrote:
I started with the idea of proxy wars started to distract both the Empire and the Republic, but the idea went south when I realized how little races the Empire could influence with their xenophobia.



Return of the Pilgrims is when the Pilgrims return from the void like we were discussing before, exact enhancements uncertain at this time.



The point of these new rebels is not that they want to join with the Republic, they want to become Emperor. This is less a difference in ideals than a difference in who they think should lead all of humanity to greatness. (They also are xenophobic, autocratic, single-minded arseholes, just not Maximilian)



And don't worry, Star Wars gets the best of all of us.

So much to respond to! Wouldn't UE becoming a fleet producing monster cause them to start just steam rolling over all races until they all get exterminated? O_O I'll explain if you need it, unless thats what you meant. Sophon rebellion sounds boring haha. But yea, the outer rim always rebels (look at UUR). Still don't really understand the whole return of the pilgrims. when and where did they leave :P. And so we can combine igncoms faction idea with your conspirators (or vice versa since you said it first) with a bit of what I said? where they can join together temporarily in order to stand a better chance (doesn't work )



And yes. yes it does.

Damn, does Boshen count as one of those factions? They're not trying to become emperor, or separate completely. But they want to become their own people (in order to gain more profit of course)