Amplified 22: Pushing Far

Telenil wrote:

Because there is no reason condescending negativity should be the only thing in this thread: I, for one, think things are going in the right direction. Looking forward to learn more, especially about the immersive name changes.

You're right, I came here because I too wanted to voice my support for Amplitude and the work they are doing, and this thread is full of negative energy. 

I agree with some others that religion is a little light at the moment, and some modders have done some interesting things with adding downsides to some tenets to make the decisions more interesting, but I find it harsh to say the core mechanics are shallow or repetitive, or to capstone it with a call back to Civ 6. Which, if we recall, took years to implement things like world congress of pollution mechanisms. 

Amplitude is keeping up the incredible work on this incredible game, and I'm excited to play with the African Cultures expansion and see what interesting combinations I can find, and I look forward to new and developing mechanisms as well as future culture expansions, and both official and unofficial mods. 

I'm excited for more expansions and some updates to balance the bad cultures

Where is the "challenge" thread?

GlorySign wrote:

Yeyyy, more Africa, the content everyone was asking for! LULmankind at its best. Now off we go to some truly amazing content in the Endless Universe section

I quite enjoy the Africa Content thus far.

I think it is the right decision to clear up the possible mess, that happend because of the slightly rushed launch. For short term i think it will stay interesting and good to see small things improving(like bug fixing, small ui imporvements etc.). However for midterm i wished for better diplomacy because the most depressing thing was when allied partners cant enter one battle, or even war(well you get a grievence but thats very uncool, and even if you declare war its two seperated wars with different wargoals). Longterm id like to see something simmular to the federations like in stellaris that would be awesome:) Keep it up and and take your time and dont give up to make humankind live up to its potential!

Corgiwealth wrote:

I wanted Humankind to be amazing, and had faith that it would be an amazing game based off of their previous titles which were interesting and innovative. I'm not here to be negative for the sake of being negative, I genuinely want this game to be amazing, but it isn't.

Once again, this argument that people who think that the game is unfinished are incorrect because they're viewing it against a game that has had an entire post release cycle is disingenuous. I never mentioned Civ VI, you did, I had my hopes based off of what I knew about Endless Legend and Endless Space 2, not on the Civ series. 

I want this game to be incredible, to bring some of that interesting game design that they were so good at with the Endless series, but it isn't and this announcement of what they intend to be doing for the next several months are not redeeming of that for me personally.

This isn't an echo chamber... Or at least it shouldn't be.

I didn't intend to attack, and especially not anyone in specific, multiple people leveled criticism, and one of them did mention Civ 6. I don't even think all the criticism is unfounded. 

I'm certain Humankind is going to improve with deeper systems, and with any luck we'll get more espionage and a world council. I can see, however, that we differ in opinion on what currently exists, and that's fine. I just can't imagine reading some of the comments in this thread and coming out of it feeling like the commenters have hope for a better game, but rather that they think everything all the people at Amplitude have been doing is for naught. 

I know that it's not what you intend, but it is what comes across. 

patch notes

Telenil wrote:

Because there is no reason condescending negativity should be the only thing in this thread: I, for one, think things are going in the right direction. Looking forward to learn more, especially about the immersive name changes.

since when is it wrong to share one's thoughts? I love this game, but I see the issues with it and will call it as it is. You saying it is just "condescending negativity" miss the entire point of what I'm saying. This is criticism, not hate. 

Because there is no reason condescending negativity should be the only thing in this thread: I, for one, think things are going in the right direction. Looking forward to learn more, especially about the immersive name changes.

I 100% agree with this statement. The only core feature that is truly in a great state is the combat. Everything else is lackluster or unbalanced. To enjoy the game, you MUST play with mods, and there is little exception to that. This game needs a lot more work before I decide to put anymore money or time into it.

Corgiwealth wrote:

Honestly this is disappointing. You can't solve Humankinds problems by cramming more content into it Amplitude...

The core mechanics are shallow and repetitive, adding more cultures isn't going to fix that, it'll just make all the current cultures even more irrelevant as the "differences" will start to blend with other cultures... The games feature set isn't deep enough for more cultures to play off of.

Additionally... The Challenge system was boring... I'd be interesting to know how many players did it because they were actually interested in it compared to how many players did it just to get the reward at the end. A system of scenarios that told pivotal moments in history through gameplay would have been so much more interesting and welcomed.

Amplitude come on...

Looking forward to the upcoming Immersive Empire names the most. This might help with the hodgepodge of flipping cultures feeling confusing at times.

(Ex: Enemy at war with goes from Zulu to Brazilians, may confuse players)

Yes hoped a video great but meh too , see amplitude never had a project like this before maybe in a possible HK 2

so..... no improvement on existing mechanics like religion and pollution. Also no new features like espionage or world congress. I had high hopes for the future of Humankind.
Welp back to Civ 6. Maybe next year the game will be good.

sounds nice