Together We Rule Expansion Announcement

Nice.

komodowaran wrote:

"Reworked Stealth System: Based on depleting a “reserve” of stealth rather than a binary yes/no check "

I hope this actualy makes your stealth units invisible to your enemys.

Since in multiplayer u will have shared allys so atm, they can just see all your stealth units inside and outside of combat

not only in multplayer, in single player too

komodowaran wrote:

I hope this actualy makes your stealth units invisible to your enemys.

Yeah, I never really figured out how to use the Saboteur.

I built a couple to see what they could do but I never knew what to do with them. 

The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales wrote:
...mutual access to Emblematic Units 

On its own this is enough to make a huge impact on Diplomacy gameplay.

Nice

Can't wait to play

Frankly speaking, there is still a fundamental difference between incorporating an ally's unit into command and actually joining the battlefield as a third party.

Josean wrote:

Frankly speaking, there is still a fundamental difference between incorporating an ally's unit into command and actually joining the battlefield as a third party.

I agree. I hope more player fighting in the same battlefield

I think Sumeria is because of the creation of cuneiform

Thanks for telling me

Sumerians and Han made sense but I don’t know why

Swiss and Singaporeans definitely have reasons

I'm excited!

Although I'm not a fan of World Congress type thing. It breaks immersion a lot, because humans never were (and probably never will) united under a single banner. I'd split World Congress into smaller scale 3-4 NATO type alliances. That would be much more realistic.

While I would also prefer the Tang (or Song), the Mongols are certainly an option. I just remember one game wondering when I was ever going to build anything other than these Confucian Schools...

DNLH wrote:

Bulgarian Tsardom did a lot to unite Southern Slavs and even ended up recognized by Pope, IIRC. It had a bit of a rocky history for the era, vanishing for a bit - but even in that they found unexpected allies to aid their rebellion against Byzantines. Definitely an interesting and surprising culture to be put in the spotlight and sometimes I think that's what HK does the best with their picks.

Good points. I certainly echo your final sentence. Humankind can be a good platform to spotlight cultures.

saxogrammaticus wrote:

Jkchart wrote:

 I do lament for the lack of what could have been a nice British Isles culture path though with Celts - > English - > Scots - > British now not being possible though :P

I share the sentiment, as I do like the role-play potential for a number of cultures. At least with the expansion, it won't be necessary to transcend twice as the Zhou!

Ryansinbela wrote:

I’m still confused on why Scotland and Bulgaria are Diplomatic. Could someone explain

Just my take, and happy to hear from others. Scottish intellectuals enjoyed substantial international recognition. David Hume, Adam Smith, and Adam Ferguson, among many others, made significant contributions in political economy with many of their socio-political and economic concepts still dominant or relevant in the world today. Perhaps this international prestige, their influence on others powers, and their role in an emerging dominant ideology justify the Diplomatic Affinity.

As for the Bulgarians, the Bulgars managed to ally with local Slavic tribes to compel the Byzantines to recognize their state by treaty. This alone calls to mind the diplomatic maneuvers possible with the new leverage resource.

Given how many affinities most cultures could have, it is interesting to think a bit about why Amplitude would choose a particular one. In general, I look forward to more communication about how the studio is conceptualizing diplomacy in this expansion.

True with the Zhou! You can hit almost every era of China now (including Mongol conquests for the third era would be an acceptable Chinese age 3 even if I hope they add Tang or another medieval dynasty later)

Bulgarian Tsardom did a lot to unite Southern Slavs and even ended up recognized by Pope, IIRC. It had a bit of a rocky history for the era, vanishing for a bit - but even in that they found unexpected allies to aid their rebellion against Byzantines. Definitely an interesting and surprising culture to be put in the spotlight and sometimes I think that's what HK does the best with their picks.

I would like to see a design doc explaining every detail behind the cultures

Maybe some of the scrapped art for Industrial, Contemporary and Postlaunch cultures

Jkchart wrote:

 I do lament for the lack of what could have been a nice British Isles culture path though with Celts - > English - > Scots - > British now not being possible though :P

I share the sentiment, as I do like the role-play potential for a number of cultures. At least with the expansion, it won't be necessary to transcend twice as the Zhou!

Ryansinbela wrote:

I’m still confused on why Scotland and Bulgaria are Diplomatic. Could someone explain

Just my take, and happy to hear from others. Scottish intellectuals enjoyed substantial international recognition. David Hume, Adam Smith, and Adam Ferguson, among many others, made significant contributions in political economy with many of their socio-political and economic concepts still dominant or relevant in the world today. Perhaps this international prestige, their influence on others powers, and their role in an emerging dominant ideology justify the Diplomatic Affinity.

As for the Bulgarians, the Bulgars managed to ally with local Slavic tribes to compel the Byzantines to recognize their state by treaty. This alone calls to mind the diplomatic maneuvers possible with the new leverage resource.

Given how many affinities most cultures could have, it is interesting to think a bit about why Amplitude would choose a particular one. In general, I look forward to more communication about how the studio is conceptualizing diplomacy in this expansion.

the one i've been waiting for

It's a wonderful news, I really look forward to this expansion.

Thinking about the diplomacy's improvements and the addition of embassies I had an idea: the possibility for empires to help allies with their own industry to their shared projects gaining some fame and improving further their relations.

I would like to link to this post another idea of mine: the possibility to claim wonders with money instead of influence like Inherited Land does with territories. It may be done by another civic since I find that some of them need changes (some exs: Working Conditions, Aristocracy Evolution, Leadership, Monarchy Power, Political Influence + the ones about stability since in the game it's very easy to mantein high stability and the possibility of revolutions is seen just as a malus more than an opportunity)

Should I maybe dedicate to it a separate thread? Probably, but not today

I’m still confused on why Scotland and Bulgaria are Diplomatic. Could someone explain