Hey there, I noticed there is no mention for one ancient civilization that exists to this day, the Judeans/Hebrews/Israelites. It seems logic that the culture who is the root of the 3 major monotheistic religions, and builders of Jerusalem, will be in a game about human history 

Israel had low impact in ancient or classical era. I think that we can expect israel in industrial or modern era more likely as a minor faction.

I mean, I can absolutely see them maybe avoiding that civilization...
Maybe because it can result in some... ehem, unfortunate responses from certain people.
I am not saying they will, I am just saying I absolutely understan if they avoid them.

True that they weren't influencial as other cultures, but still, they had great leaders (Moses, King David and King Solomon to name a few) and they were at war with almost all of the other civs in the game. And again, don't forget the religious influence. I understand what you say about people reacting bad to Israel, but politics doesn't belong in video games, people's can't change or ignore history just because they don't like it 

Eulogos wrote:
Other than the fact that their religion happened to be the first to offer a good afterlife for anyone who has faith, they weren't all that influential of a culture. They were barely organized past a city-state level.

There are a lot of civilization in the game who had even less influence, some of them people never heard of :) 

What would be the unique unit? The unique quarter?

Even if these exist, Israel is more worth of a minor civilization role. The features that make this culture unique do not exist in this game, namely racial and religious cohesion over millenia, the effect of the diaspora, connection to a specific location on the planet. Once we see dev blogs covering religion and population events like refugees, then maybe Israel should be considered.

Aye_Avast wrote:

What would be the unique unit? The unique quarter?

Even if these exist, Israel is more worth of a minor civilization role. The features that make this culture unique do not exist in this game, namely racial and religious cohesion over millenia, the effect of the diaspora, connection to a specific location on the planet. Once we see dev blogs covering religion and population events like refugees, then maybe Israel should be considered.

Early unique unit can be the Maccabi or for modern times the Merkava :) quarter can be something religious or high-tech (they are called tgetstart-up nation) 

Saphi wrote:

Eulogos wrote:
Other than the fact that their religion happened to be the first to offer a good afterlife for anyone who has faith, they weren't all that influential of a culture. They were barely organized past a city-state level.

There are a lot of civilization in the game who had even less influence, some of them people never heard of :) 

I would recommend watching this summary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k90G9bHyk_w&feature=youtu.be) if you are not familiar with the Bronze Age cultures revealed in Humankind.

I have to agree that if the Israeli/Hebrews were to be included, it would be in as a minor, only with small potential for a Modern era reveal. They definately are a long lasting culture/people, with many unfortunate circumstances, but besides the religious influence, they are overshadowed by other cultures. There are so many mechanics and gameplay we have not seen yet, for all we know they could be included in events or in some other way in the early game, but other than that you will probably have to see what sort of Modern Era cultures they pick. They have historians and experts give them the information they need to make decisions, but worst case scenario is that there could be expansions and/or mods.

@Zypher14   @roseofsharon  Yea you guys have a point, I just wish a game would implement them as playable civ, in civilization 5 and 6, other people made mods to play them 

I would like to see israelites and also amonites, moabites, edomites, canaanites, philistines, ismaelites, arameans, amorites, cassites and hyksos. 

We actually have Canaanites as Phoenicians and Amorites as Babylonians.

But we are also missing very major players in the middle east like Sumerians the first known civilization or Akkadians the first known empire.

What is the exact point of listing all those? Although each group might be unique to an anthropologist, they can probably all be represented by one culture in HumanKind. Perhaps you should create a scenario mod with the ancient palestinian cultures.

I believe that if they used the name Canaanites instead of Phoenicians, then the Philistines, Israelites and the others can all be considered included in the game under the Canaanite umbrella name. But for some reason Phoenicians it seems to be more related to the ancient city states from todays lebanon and not to much to their neighbors.

Will there be a Ottoman Empire?

The announced cultures are:

Ancient Era

• Assyrians
• Babylonians
• Egyptians
• Harappans
• Hittites
• Myceneans
• Nubians
• Olmecs
• Phonecians
• Zhou

Classical Era

• Aksumites

• Carthaginians

• Celts

• Goths

• Greeks

• Huns

• Mauryans

• Mayans

• Persians

• Romans

Medieval Era

• Byzantines

• English

• Franks

• Ghanaians

• Khmer

Early Modern Era, Industrial Era, and Contemporary Era have not had any cultures announced. If Ottoman does get in, it will be an Industrial Era culture. They announce one culture per week which means they will announced Industrial cultures (and potentially Ottomans) 15-25 weeks from now, and will have announced the last culture 35 weeks from now (February 2021) at the current rate. Since the game is scheduled to come out this year, I expect that means they increase the speed that they announced them or announce them all soon.

Ezumiyr wrote:

But really it's an issue with how this kind of game is designed. Civilizations get isolated from their context, and they are considered as some kinds of noospheric entities that can just pop anywhere on an Earth-like planet.

This is an excellent point, and I think it is the case that game design and sale numbers outweigh a more realistic approach.

ES2 politics has some element where laws and techs can affect the population, but it never significantly impacted my games.

The Civ4 mod Caveman to Cosmos did have some element where your civ was a blank-slate name, but having certain resources/buildings/units would grant a culture. For example, I think having an "Apples" resource and a bowman would let you be English, enabling the Longbow unit.

These aren't very satisfying compared to reality, but I would agree that it's also awkward to see cultures without context.

Please add Trypolian or Scythian civilization. Also Kieven Rus might be added during Medieval Era.

Falta la civilización mapuche en Sudamérica que se enfrentó a los españoles.

Saphisto wrote:

Eulogos wrote:
Other than the fact that their religion happened to be the first to offer a good afterlife for anyone who has faith, they weren't all that influential of a culture. They were barely organized past a city-state level.

There are a lot of civilization in the game who had even less influence, some of them people never heard of :) 

The degree of influence of a Civilization and its popularity in the modern world are two completely different things.

They're closer to a city state than a civilization 

Tnecniw wrote:

I mean, I can absolutely see them maybe avoiding that civilization...
Maybe because it can result in some... ehem, unfortunate responses from certain people.
I am not saying they will, I am just saying I absolutely understan if they avoid them.

The Jewish history of the land, whether some people like it or not, is historical fact. It shouldn't be considered controversial to acknowledge that.

Eulogos wrote:
Other than the fact that their religion happened to be the first to offer a good afterlife for anyone who has faith, they weren't all that influential of a culture. They were barely organized past a city-state level.

Not exactly... Jewish religion doesn't put much emphasis on afterlife; it's teachings don't make much reference to the afterlife at all; most of the focus is on living your life on Earth. Most modern concepts of "heaven" and "hell" were derived from Greco-roman tradition through Christianity. In fact, Judaism doesn't actually have the christian concept of "hell".