Hi guys

After Ming was revealed, there was some arguements in Korean Humankind community. They said Rocket Carts in Humankind look like Joseon Hwacha, rather than Ming's. I think historical facts is not an essential part of developing games, even if it's based on history. But my friends, it can be a good option to polish the game. Here's a look.

This is Ming Culture card. In Rocket Carts image, rocket turret is topped on cart.

This picture is from Wubei Zhi, written by Mao Yuanyi in 17th century. It describes Ming's rocket cart. You'll notice that 'rocket part' and 'cart part' are integrated as one.

Yungwon pilbi(1813) 

I am sorry, I cannot find the source. I just got it from wikipedia.

In contrast, Joseon's Hwacha's launcher and cart were separated. Launcher is topped on cart, and it could be rotated, assembled and disassembled. This makes a difference in appearance between Ming's and Joseon's rocket carts. Well, I can't help but agree on the opinion that the rocket cart design in humankind is more like Joseon's rather than Ming's.

I acknowledge that this is not a major thing. Anyway, those are really similar weapons, isn't it? But since Hwacha is a very symbolic weapon in Korean history(so many korean fans expected Hwacha would be Joseon's emblematic unit), This is a pretty hot issue in Korean humankind fan community. I just wanted to share this, and collect opinions of gamers in other countries and developers. Have a nice day, and please share your opinions.

I've discussed this feedback from the Korean community with one of our VIPs from Korea. So we're aware of the problems and will be discussing them with the artists, but we cannot promise any revision right now, as the rocket cart is not the only element that requires revision.

However, we'd appreciate if you could explain the differences between the Korean and Ming rocket cart designs in more detail, apart from the Korean design not being a single piece, so that if we can revise the art and model, we will know what to look out for.

letgo wrote:

This picture is from Wubei Zhi, written by Mao Yuanyi in 17th century. It describes Ming's rocket cart. You'll notice that 'rocket part' and 'cart part' are integrated as one.

In contrast, Joseon's Hwacha's launcher and cart were separated. Launcher is topped on cart, and it could be rotated, assembled and disassembled. This makes a difference in appearance between Ming's and Joseon's rocket carts. Well, I can't help but agree on the opinion that the rocket cart design in humankind is more like Joseon's rather than Ming's.

武備志 is freely available in the Japanese university archives. Here's the relevant chapter, pictures 30 and 31 (and 32 for written description if you have someone who can read Classical Chinese):
https://archive.wul.waseda.ac.jp/kosho/ke05/ke05_00061/ke05_00061_0047/ke05_00061_0047.html

The Ming design separates the cart from the fire arrow packs (which are visible in the in-game model, in my opinion), it just works as a platform for which these can be stacked on whereas the Joseon design you've posted doesn't have these detachable fire arrow packs (they could be fired while handheld) but a full fire arrow platfrom unique to the device. Unloaded and loaded, for reference.
In turn I disagree that the device looks all too wrong. The one change I would propose to hammer its origin in is to use the middle-wheel configuration. It's not like Chinese didn't have carts with 2 wheels (there are some even in this book), but if you think it might confuse the laymen, it's probably better to switch. :)