Sorry. I thought you might be looking for city names. You weren't real specific. If you're instead looking for specific locations on a map, I'll see if I can find a resource.
Yes I meant the locations. When I type the names I get unrelated stuff
I think the main problem is one of timeline. In the game, the Bantu are barely post-Neolithic. But if you look at Bantu peoples in Africa, they span from a homeland in Nigeria and spread out across the breadth of the continent and down to modern day South Africa. If you're trying to place their "cities" (villages?) back at 10,000 BCE even up to about 2,000 BCE, it might not be possible. I've found a few maps which show the Bantu migrations, but no cities or even settlements are delineated. The first civ I found was Nok, about 1000 BCE to about 200 CE.
Does anyone know where the Bantu City names come from, I’m working on a map of all the cities
Hey Ryan, I might be able to give you info on this subject.
As Grathocke explained, the first Bantus as represented in the game are mostly known from scientists through linguistic and genetic studies and not from archaeological data or written sources. No archaeological site has yet been found related to this culture and at this time and as far as we know there are no proofs and few chances that they were an "urban" culture like understood for the Mesopotamian cultures represented in era 1.
When facing a case like that in the culture design and given that we must provide a certain number of cities that can be built for each culture we usually operate trying to stay the more historically accurate in our suggestions. For the Bantus, we used several proto-bantu (the oldest common denominator of the nowadays spoke Bantu language) names related to the habitat like the one standing for the house, the dwelling, the village and so on.
So no, you will not find them anywhere on a map or an archaeological paper, but feel free to place them somewhere between the Cameroon grasslands, the Congo basin, or the Great Lakes ;)
Dipáta (Lipátà) - "tract of land pertaining to village or a ward in the village"
Mucé (Kicì, Kicé?; Ncì, Ncé) - not as certain of this but, I think it's "ground"; "country," although I've seen the word more as -ci/-cì rather than -cé (and also a different class)
Dipáta (Lipátà) - "tract of land pertaining to village or a ward in the village"
Mucé (Kicì, Kicé?; Ncì, Ncé) - not as certain of this but, I think it's "ground"; "country," although I've seen the word more as -ci/-cì rather than -cé (and also a different class)
"salty kind of dust found at the bottom of a [dry?] lake"; "salty substance for livestock"; "salty, dusty place"; related to 'em-boliei, "salt-lick"?
And just for fun: Enkang means "location where one's people and cattle are established; home, homestead"
Moran (il-murran, sing. ol-murrani) means "warriors"
Hahaha, it's all right again! I'm glad actually that someone like you took the time to wonder why these place names were selected. Place names are one of the things we put a lot of work in (there are almost 6000 different city names in the game), even if it’s not noticed most of the time.
For the Maasai there was a double challenge (like for the bantu) because it’s a people without any written sources for the concerned era (early modern) and it’s, once again, a “non-urban” culture.
In this case I precisely searched for toponyms because, you probably know this fact, toponyms are in most of the case the most ancient linguistic marker of a territory (that’s why a place name is so political, it tends to be stable in time). For instance, in France, rivers, mountains, dwellings still ware celtic names etc. For the Maasai, toponyms were both a great way to find “historical names” AND it was a great marker of their way of life (you see and name the land for what possibility it offers you)
I’ll have to check myself to be sure, but, in your opinion, what’s the most represented city in the base game (among all eras and cultures) ?
@FestinaLente while I don‘t know the most represented city in the base game, I think generally places that are represented multiple times have different names each time. But Beijing is the first city for Ming and China with exactly the same name, which is a bit confusing.
By my rough estimations, it looks to be a tie between six cities, each with 3 appearances:
Beijing - Ming, Chinese, and Mongol Khanbaliq if you have a really weird game
Brescia - Celtic Brixia, Italian Brescia, and Venetian Bresa
Cairo - Ottoman, Modern Egyptian, Umayyad Fustat
Istanbul - Byzantine Konstantinoupolis, Ottoman Kostantiniyye, and Turkish Istanbul
London - Roman Londinium, English Londonia, British London
Ravenna - Romans, Venetians, and the Independent Ostrogothic faction
I might be tempted to give Cairo the win overall, as Heliopolis (Iunu), Giza, and Memphis (all of which are city names in the game) are within Greater Cairo today.
And for completeness sake, cities that appear on two different lists:
Ahmadabad, Aleppo, Ankara (if Hanikku = Ankuwa = Ankara, but the location is not certain), Asyut (Zawty), Avaris (Hut-waret), Babylon, Bourges (Avaricon,Bituriga), Bristol, Budapest, Bursa, Cadiz/Gadir, Canterbury, Chengdu, Clermont-Ferrand (Nemossos, Arverna), Cordoba, Damascus, Delhi (Shahjahanpur), Erbil (Arbaira/Arbaila), Frankfurt, Guangzhou, Hamedan/Hagmatana, Hangzhou, Hyderabad, Kazan, Koln, Krakow (Carrodunon), Kyiv, Lund, Lyon, Mexico City/Tenochititlan, Milan, Moscow, Narbonne, Norwich, Osaka, Padua, Palermo (Ziz), Reims (Durocorteron, Remus), Rome, Saint Petersburg (Leningrad), Seville, Sirmium, Strasbourg, Susa, Ray/Tehran (if generous), Thessalonica, Tokyo (Edo), Toledo, Toulouse, Trabzon, Uppsala, York
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