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Religion: Schisms and Heresies

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5 years ago
Aug 29, 2020, 11:12:30 AM

First, religion looks cool


Second, I wonder if there will be some religion split to portray heresies and schisms. I haven't seen anything hinting toward this

Maybe it wouldn't work well with less than 10 players (compared to Ck3 system which is cool and more complex) or maybe Amplitude don't want to make it too complex from start. 


My idea was that some religion, when big enough would have a chance to present some issues. People would disagree on some of the tenets of the religion. There could be an Council event letting you chose between keeping the tenet and staying true to your faith or changing one tenet and adopting an heresy, provoking a shism and creating a new religion. This eve't could be proposed to several players having it as state religion. 

If tenets can only be picked once(not shared between religion), it would make that religion's from same origin would share some but not all of their tenets. They would consider others as Heretics, which could be dealt with differently that completely different religion (catholics were more OK with orthodox that Muslim, while Shia would rather deal with Christian that sunni. If I'm not mistaken, don't take it badly if I misunderstood something, that's an example). It would also allow a powerful bielever to become religious head by embracing the heresy instead of staying the 2nd of the religion. 

They could share some holy sites (the first ones) but have a unique holy site unlocked upon the schism. 


Maybe making the Council happen could be based on spending faith



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5 years ago
Aug 29, 2020, 3:53:41 PM
Mausklickmoerder wrote:

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5 years ago
Aug 30, 2020, 11:06:57 AM

Sounds like a great idea! Perhaps it could tie in with the civics/ideologies function!

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5 years ago
Aug 30, 2020, 4:30:01 PM
Histotoon wrote:

Sounds like a great idea! Perhaps it could tie in with the civics/ideologies function!

Yeah I was thinking there could be a civic slot about how you see heretics (worse or better than totatlly different religions)

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5 years ago
Aug 30, 2020, 6:33:01 PM

I had a similar idea after watching the video going more in depth with religion. One thing I think was super neat was that whoever has the most holy sites of that religion controls it, not its original creating culture. So you have to be careful to a degree about who your religion spreads to as another player could go "wow this is way more developed than mine" make it their state religion and then pump out holy sites to take control! A schism system would fit really well with this system, if I'm understanding it correctly.

However! I'm sure that a schism system might be out of scope for vanilla release and could be a fun system to expand upon in an expansion later down the line, as well as heresies, religion reconstructions, syncretisms, and healing of schisms! All exciting ideas to think about, and surely much more difficult to design, program, and balance!

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5 years ago
Aug 31, 2020, 3:13:45 PM

Yeah, it might make it too complex for total newbies to Amplitude games even if i don"t think it add that much difficulty to understand


But if not in game, Religion Expanded would make a good candidate for a expansion

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