One thing I disliked in Civ 6 was the removal of workers buidling roads and being left with trade routes deciding which tiles should have a roads or not. Yes later Your could get engineers that could build roads but still I did not like that at all. It's not like roads for other things than pure trade routes was invented in the 20th century. Also the whole worker charges vs workers acctually building stuff over turns was a big dislike for me (not much I like in civ 6 to be honest). To me it seemed like they chose that design route to make the game faster paced for Multiplayer. ruining it for me as a mainly single player. So that workers didn't need as many orders that took time to give. Just send him to a tile and build and that was it, after a few charges worker was gone. Only time it took was to acctually build the worker, but that does not need managing each turn. Just cue a worker to be built. Another reason I disliked it as it takes time from other things i'd rather build in my city. I prefered to be able to build them like in Civ 5 and then no more time spent on that in any build cue, but instead time spent on managing them. Give them orders what to build and such. That feels more like city or empire management to meand I like that.

I'm fine with Humankind not needing workers to build extensions/quarters and farms and such, but I would like to be able to chose where I want my roads to go exactly. Roads is not only used for trade routes. Roads is also important for defending and empire or attack another. Move units fast across the land. Just look at The Roman history and the advantage and important roads had along with it's military. I could take a more modern example with autobahn and all that, but I rather not. The Romans should be enough to make my point.

One might want to build a road to edge of one of ones territories even if that territory does not lead to another of ones cities in that direction. It's not like all roads in countries are only internal, but also to connect to other countries. It could be that I personally rather have a road lead to a hill within my borders as that can be used as a defensive high point that i want to be able to improve units to fast. Also I'm not sure if enemies invading can make use of my roads or not ??? In any case the trade route might decide that going via that hill is not what ir will do and I feel like I can't make my own choices. Maybe I don't want to build an extension in that tile as it's bad for that but would still be excellent for a road etc.

I don't know. It could be that I'm in a minority, or even alone, in acctually enjoying taking care of my workers and giving orders and building roads. Maybe the majority rather not have to worry about that and just wants it done automatically and not have much control over where exactly roads are to be laid ??? I like personal choices and personal control of things the way one wants to do it. Not have it done for me in a way I don't want to.

I'm actually against this concept.

Amplitude has so far done a good job of creating a 4X game without any civilian units (workers/work boats/military engineers), and this is one of the things that makes it unique from CIV. Not having civilian units decreases the workload of players and is definately beneficial to the game.

In Scenario 1 roads removed terrain penalties, and it is a good bet that later versions of roads, including railroads, will have a movement bonus. Given the fast movements of units on the world map (4 for foot, 6 for cavalry), the only necessary roads are direct connections to other cities/outposts.

I think having road connected to castle extension is convenient as well, so you can build a castle to strategic location. Maybe yo hamlet too? Adding those extra road could maybe need the city to build a project

Automatic or not it depends of how good they are but I was fine with the roads from EL

Aye_Avast wrote:

I'm actually against this concept.

Amplitude has so far done a good job of creating a 4X game without any civilian units (workers/work boats/military engineers), and this is one of the things that makes it unique from CIV. Not having civilian units decreases the workload of players and is definately beneficial to the game.

In Scenario 1 roads removed terrain penalties, and it is a good bet that later versions of roads, including railroads, will have a movement bonus. Given the fast movements of units on the world map (4 for foot, 6 for cavalry), the only necessary roads are direct connections to other cities/outposts.

There is no compelling reason to have roads built by separate workers units. Roads could be created as city project or otherwise. I just want to place the roads where I want and see them have a significant impact on troop movement and trade

I think, it can be both. Roads weren't always constructed by the state or government apparatus si it makes sense that roads would be made without player intervention, but state or government apparatus did build roads and maintain them so it would be cool even if you don't spend resources on roads you'd still have some minor highways and the like

A bit late to the dicussion here, but let me say that as far as I know road connections to "freely placed" extensions like Harbors, Castles, and Hamlets are indeed planned, so you will have some control.

The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales wrote:

A bit late to the dicussion here, but let me say that as far as I know road connections to "freely placed" extensions like Harbors, Castles, and Hamlets are indeed planned, so you will have some control.

@The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales Thank You for Your reply !!! *thumbs up*
That is at least indeed some control. Mayber not 100% control of building a road at just any tile I want, but still better than no control at all. A middle of the road compromise/solution that I think I can live with. I guess we will have to see how it acctually works in a full live game. Hopefully really well. :)

By the way: there is a thread where we discuss the benefits of railways.

Zaubberer wrote:

By the way: there is a thread where we discuss the benefits of railways.

@Zaubberer Thank You for the link !!! :)