Agreed. The game speed setting definitely needs tuning. If you focus on science right now your game speed setting seems to mean nothing. I'm sure there's scaling at play already, but it doesn't feel right.

I would increase the era stars needed (and increase the “catchup” stars). I would then increase the cost of techs, but make more possible options for tech paths so you can skip techs more easily.

I'm with you on this. I would really love a slower methodical game. Praying that mods allow us to make the game much MUCH slower. Science, era progression (choosing number of stars needed and their requirements), and the turn limit need tweaking. Endless pace just isn't doing it for me unfortunately. Was shocked to see it only goes to 600 turns and really was hoping for at least 1200. The more turns the better IMO

I always end up modding civilisation and similar 4x games to play slower by increasing the tech and pop growth cost but not increasing production by the same amount. I'm sure it can be argued it ruins the balance but increasing tech costs by say 20% whilst leaving production cost as vanilla has the effect of giving you more time to play with the units, buildings and interactions available in each era (at least in civ). Typically the game speed options in these games scale everything pretty much equally to keep the intended balance. I'm looking through the humankind files now to see what I can find 

Yeah, this is the same problem Civilization has - slowing the game down doesn't mean you spend more time in each era relatively speaking, it just means everything takes longer. And usually, the same amount longer. So we go from (these numbers are just for example and don't relate to anything) 2 turns for a warrior and 8 turns to obsolete them to 4 turns for a warrior and 16 turns to obsolete them, and the only thing that gets extended is how long I have them to move around, but it doesn't fix the issue that I can make four of those units before they're obsolete in either mode.

I need a mode that slows down science harder than production, so the 'feeling' of being at given points is different.

Wanted to add my voice to the support of this post. I just got to the point where I am less than 100 turns from the game and I just went and decided to add up how long it would take to built all of the remaining buildings: It takes nearly the rest of the game to do so. Perhaps I am not expanding my cities enough, or filling in the map appropriately. But, I quickly lose track of what I am even doing with all of the rapidly advancing ticks. I love it, and hate it because there is almost nothing I can do to empty the buildings menu in any city. Perhaps that is how their prior games were designed. 

However, as mentioned here, I actually want to feel each and every era and their impacts. I suppose I will have to wait for a similar "take your time" mod for this game if the devs don't change the pace, or eliminate some buildings from the game.

u can set the round timer back to round one with a...trick...

but anyway...that wont help really because game ends if u research all technologies....even if u choose "conquer the world"

I do believe they really need to slow down Tech and Era. Even back in OpenDev, this was the one thing that iffy me the most.

For once I just want to experience Ancient Era warfare instead of just 20 turns of trying to build one to three warrior unit then realizing techs on medieval era already.

I think that needing more era stars and increasing techc osys would make things a lot better, but also reducing the production required for units, districts, and infrastructure. I tried playing on endless but it just felt like I wasnt able to build anything before getting ready to advance through the era.

I absolutely agree. Tech and era progress should be much slower, while build speed faster, so we actually have time to feel eras, go to war, build not all but the most crucial buildings of a given era, and most importantly have time to play with cultures we have chosen. The main selling point of the game is the ability to experience all those cultures - but they go away so fast, I have no time for this!

I can't wait until someone creates the mod "2 times longer era/research/era stars required" or something like that. If it is too extreme for devs official version then please increase some of those values at least by 50%.

I think that introduce a game option to reduce from -10 to -90 % the recherch speed, would be interesting.

Jojo_Fr wrote:

I think that introduce a game option to reduce from -10 to -90 % the recherch speed, would be interesting.

That, and a slider for production speed. That way you could slow down tech, and era's, while boosting production slightly, allowing for era's to play out a little more fluidly

Iceciro wrote:
slowing the game down doesn't mean you spend more time in each era relatively speaking, it just means everything takes longer.

Which means you actually spend more time in each era...

But I agree that game is way too fast. I always modded Civ games to have more than 2000 turns. With the opportunity to save games it's not a problem to have a game spanning a month or a two. And that's, my dudes, is a true Humankind Odyssey. A game where ancient era really feels ancient, because it happened so long ago. Switching from one era to another was meaningful, because it was happening so rarely. And you were able to delve dep into each era not being afraid it'll pass in 15 minutes, only for the next era to be over in less than an hour. 

I just enjoy such games the most when research speed is slowed down significantly, with production costs of units and buildings are not. It's era that should take long to pass, not everything. Just because I want the tech progress go slow doesn't mean I think warriors should now take 500 years to muster.

I was asking devs about it since I've learned about this game and IIRC they said it'll be easily moddable (like in Civ where all you had to do was to change few easily found numbers in a txt file). 

AquilaSPQR wrote:

Iceciro wrote:
slowing the game down doesn't mean you spend more time in each era relatively speaking, it just means everything takes longer.

Which means you actually spend more time in each era...

But I agree that game is way too fast. I always modded Civ games to have more than 2000 turns. With the opportunity to save games it's not a problem to have a game spanning a month or a two. And that's, my dudes, is a true Humankind Odyssey. A game where ancient era really feels ancient, because it happened so long ago. Switching from one era to another was meaningful, because it was happening so rarely. And you were able to delve dep into each era not being afraid it'll pass in 15 minutes, only for the next era to be over in less than an hour. 

I just enjoy such games the most when research speed is slowed down significantly, with production costs of units and buildings are not. It's era that should take long to pass, not everything. Just because I want the tech progress go slow doesn't mean I think warriors should now take 500 years to muster.

I was asking devs about it since I've learned about this game and IIRC they said it'll be easily moddable (like in Civ where all you had to do was to change few easily found numbers in a txt file). 

nah... dont find such text files...so...speaking for me...not really easy to mod like paradox games or civilization :(

I second all said here: game really should be longer, like more turns and longer eras but without dumb multiplier to production, science and etc. As it was already said here, I as well want to enjoy each era while developing big cities and building armies which would have time to clash with neighbors and check the color of their blood. 

Sure, game is great, but the lack of more flexible game rule customization really is noticeable and annoying. Either devs should solve it somehow, or they'd better release modding instruments fast so that people do the thing themselves.