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It is profitable to not enter ancient era?

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4 years ago
Dec 17, 2020, 7:24:39 AM

While you are a nomadic tribe, you have two advantages:

1. You get massive influence by killing, regardless its animals or AI armies. 10 influence per AI tribe you kill. I managed to build 8 outpost, occupying completely the southern/eastern coast, plus nearly 1000 influence at roughly round 30. Considering how slow you generate influence after ancient era, staying at nomadic era will help your early expansion.

2. You get insanely large army. Having 2 tribes killing a mammoth instantly grant you 2 new tribes. Therefore you can "duplicate" your army simply by killing. Even more, I kill every AI army on sight and ransack their outposts on sight. That way 2 AI just get wipped away before ancient era (they never enter ancient era. Whenever a new army spawn, I kill it immediately; they will never get even a single star; as a result, it shows I have never met them). At the end of nomadic era, I have 78 units and population, which is impossible if you build all your armies in cities. These tribes will turn to scouts immediately and as long as I keep killing everything I see, it's impossible for AI to get any technologies and I do not need to build any military units afterwards.

3. Probably a bug, if you do not enter ancient era, they AI will not enter it either (though you know they are already in the ancient era as you can not attack their city, showing you must declare war. You can not declare war since you are still in nomadic era)


As a result, I entered ancient era at roughly round 20 with 8 outputs. I immediately unlocked several technologies as you accumulate science even if you are in nomadic era. I entered classical era at round 30 and medieval era at round 40.


I attached some photos of the time I decide to go to ancient era. You can see I control the continent during nomadic age

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4 years ago
Dec 17, 2020, 8:40:14 AM

Seems like early domination let's you snowball very quickly. I did this in my current game where I tried to aggressively settle outposts and cities early on and then went onto a pacific ancient and early classical era. AI was catching up rapidly when left alone and I was not being militaristic enough to get further era stars. Then decided to exterminate one of the smaller AIs I had been blocking and skyrocketed through my era and my fame score soared as well.


Seems at the moment that playing all facets of the game rather than a full pacifist run will get you in a better position. 

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4 years ago
Dec 17, 2020, 8:49:55 AM

lol yeah I didn't go that far but indeed you can easily kill the game if you stay at the Neolithic for some times.
Well even if you switch to ancient era after several turn you may have already got the lead because a player will split and multiply while the AI tend to stay packed.

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4 years ago
Dec 17, 2020, 9:02:51 AM
anduruin wrote:

Seems like early domination let's you snowball very quickly. I did this in my current game where I tried to aggressively settle outposts and cities early on and then went onto a pacific ancient and early classical era. AI was catching up rapidly when left alone and I was not being militaristic enough to get further era stars. Then decided to exterminate one of the smaller AIs I had been blocking and skyrocketed through my era and my fame score soared as well.


Seems at the moment that playing all facets of the game rather than a full pacifist run will get you in a better position. 

Yeah the AI is really bad at fighting even without exploiting the neolithic you can take the lead if you just bully them ^^

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