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Losing my religion

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4 years ago
Dec 20, 2020, 9:04:04 PM

Description: At some point past level 2 tenet selection, my religion disappeared and the hover text for the open religion panel was replaced with "%ControlBannerReligionPopup.....%", and could not open the religion panel. Button itself became greyed out as though I had never had a religion.

Steps to Reproduce: 1. Get a religion. 2. Select 1st and 2nd level tenets. 3. Wait? Possibly acquire 3rd level tenet requirements? I did not rename my religion.

Reproducibility: 5/5 within this save file, it never came back. ?/5 for the game itself, haven't tried a second playthrough yet. 

Expected Behavior: I should see my religion name/be able to open the panel.

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Early game save (issue not apparent I think): Carthaginians Turn 81.ctrKhmer Turn 98.ctr

Late game save (after it broke): Spanish Turn 125.ctr


Some hopefully relevant logs;

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4 years ago
Dec 21, 2020, 8:13:04 PM

Even is Secularism is chosen, the hover text should be something more understandable than %ControlBannerReligionPopup.....% "

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4 years ago
Dec 24, 2020, 3:59:52 AM
PARAdoxiBLE wrote:

Have you chosen "Secularism" in the "Irreligion" civic? It will remove the state religion.

That may be the explanation but was actually another issue; I got an "urgent matters require your attention" message that said it would lock that choice in for me, but I never got the actual civic to pop and never spent a civic point on it. I also think it's weird that you'd have a point where you unavoidably have to transition from a state religion to either secularism or state atheism with continued theocracy not being a choice.


I agree with FaeBriona that it should still be interpretable rather than a broken link and a variable name on hover, but I'd even go further: you still "control" aspects of your culture even if you have a pluralistic society, why not let the player keep the reigns of the religion they created even after they choose secularism but have the effect be managed differently somehow? Completely locking the religion in place is unsatisfying; it's not like religions in secular societies don't change and evolve over time, and besides I still had the option of building entire districts on the map devoted to faith. (Does that get taken away if you choose state atheism?) Maybe if you pick secularism somehow the tier three tenet gets chosen for you?

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4 years ago
Dec 26, 2020, 1:39:53 AM

great report, never expierenced this so far in 3 playthroughs. I could not read your title without thinking about R.E.M. :)


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