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Sublustris wrote:

No way to harm dictatorships' economies without harming their people wealthbeing. It's just the way it is, there are no winners, but at least it limits rise and development of war machine like russia has become.

I am ready to pay double price for Humankind and it's DLC in case if this money will be transferred to help Ukraine. I think this would be a better policy for SEGA than just a stupid attempt to overwhelm our economy. Tactics of sanctions cannot help against dictators. North Korea is the best example. And I'm afraid our dictators are also ready to bathe in gold and blood, surrounded by a crowd of guards, while their people will starve and die.

Sublustris wrote:

Your country is still used as Iskander launch grounds, source of regular air defence alerts, and as potential vector of land and air attack, to restrain our military from moving our forces east and south.

Sorry, I didn't know that. This is awful. Reading news is hard for me nowadays. It only depresses me, upsets me and makes me realize that I cannot do absolutely nothing to stop this terrible things that Lukashenko and Putin are doing.

Sublustris wrote:

And this isn't in any way a concession to Ukraine and its people, it is first and foremost in the very interest of people of Belarus themselves. Your very own anthem starts with "We, Belarusians, are peaceful people".

I completely agree. We, Belarusians, are peaceful people. But how can we help you? Not buying Humankind?

Sublustris wrote:

And that itself already equals сomplicity in a war of aggression, according to international laws, like it or not.

OK. You're right. We are at war. But most of Belarusians do not fight. And I believe that the most of us will not fight against the Ukrainians, even if every Belarusian would be handed with a machine gun. We, Belarusians, are peaceful people.

Sublustris wrote:

Oh my, how can Ukraine help? Come in and throw out your dictator for you?

Ukraine cannot help to throw Lukashenko. This is a problem of belarusians. We are still trying to throw out Lukashenko. But this is a super difficult task. He is 10 times stronger than Yanukovych, he has much more power. During these 28 years of reign he has built one the most protected fortress in Europe. And belarusian national method of expelling dictators - partisan warfare - is much slower and probably less effective than revolution. But a bloody revolution in our country is just simply impossible. We, Belarusians, are peaceful people. And this is not only our advantage, but also a disadvantage.

We do not accept even a drop of Belarusian blood. Even for better future. We hate violence so much, that we even ready to endure lawlessness of dictators. And Belarusians are not ready to shed blood neither for Ukrainians, nor for Russians, although both of you are some kind of our brother nations. Belarusians prefer to hide in swamps and forests instead. But that's belarusian's national method of surviving. It's in our genetics. Our country is a crossroad of Europe. I bet, during our bloody history, belarusians and our ancestors were dead in wars, repressions and revolutions more than any other nation of Europe. Those who tried to protest just dead and didn't pass the genetic material to the descendants.

P.S. Sorry for this emotional offtopic in this thread. But I hate being punishing for things, that I cannot control. I'd wish of SEGA to make me fighting more in Humankind battles than in forum battles, or, even worse, real battles (God forbid). I really like this game. I'd wish of wars to become only in Humankind, not in real life. But SEGA actually makes me to become a pirate. And I don't like rum and parrots.

Shukfir wrote:
However, our country is not even at war with Ukraine.

Your country is still used as Iskander launch grounds, source of regular air defence alerts, and as potential vector of land and air attack, to restrain our military from moving our forces east and south.

Shukfir wrote:
Yeah, our dictator Lukashenko gave the territory to Russian troops at the beginning of the war.

And that itself already equals сomplicity in a war of aggression, according to international laws, like it or not. 

Shukfir wrote:
But I never voted for Lukashenko. Most of people I know voted against Lukashenko in the last election (and I think most of Belarusians too). Most of Belarusians hate this war.

And this isn't in any way a concession to Ukraine and its people, it is first and foremost in the very interest of people of Belarus themselves. Your very own anthem starts with "We, Belarusians, are peaceful people".

Shukfir wrote:
But they can't do anything. Because all protests are brutally suppressed. Even hanging white and red pants on the balcony in our country is a crime. Because that's the colours of the protest flag.

Oh my, how can Ukraine help? Come in and throw out your dictator for you?

Shukfir wrote:
I don't understand why I can't buy Humankind or any of it's DLC in Belarus.

No way to harm dictatorships' economies without harming their people wealthbeing. It's just the way it is, there are no winners, but at least it limits rise and development of war machine like russia has become.

I live in Belarus, but I also can't buy the DLC. However, our country is not even at war with Ukraine. Yeah, our dictator Lukashenko gave the territory to Russian troops at the beginning of the war. But I never voted for Lukashenko. Most of people I know voted against Lukashenko in the last election (and I think most of Belarusians too). Most of Belarusians hate this war. But they can't do anything. Because all protests are brutally suppressed. Even hanging white and red pants on the balcony in our country is a crime. Because that's the colours of the protest flag.

I don't understand why I can't buy Humankind or any of it's DLC in Belarus. Seriously. Instead of spending money on Humankind, I have to spend money on goods that will keep the money in my country. And this money will probably finance the government of Belarus, which I hate, and even can finance the war with Ukraine.

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Sublustris wrote:

Sorry, air defence alerts due to your country shooting missiles at mine right now overthrows any and all codes and terms.

I sincerely wish you and your relatives to live through this horror. But there are other platforms where you can discuss this stuff. This one is meant for discussing games, not politics or wars.

It's fair for them to bring it up in response to other users whining that the game was blocked in Russia, and for some dismissive comments that reeked of Russian nationalism after that. You're right that this isn't the best place to have a hyperpolitical discussion, but you're wrong as to who you're directing the blame towards in this thread for it going down that route at all. You've been more of a problem in this thread than Sublustris has in that regard. 

I guess I hold some part of the blame, even though my intentions were to keep this discussion from becoming pointing fingers, yet I was not directing it towards Sublustris, as you say. The inital spark was before and by another user, and if you translate my response then you can see that I was advicing against provocative whining. And I once again advice against going further down that route and think your interruption brought nothing positive to the discussion. 

Standing up for the person in the right is very much positive. You need to stop lecturing others, take your own advice and end the route you've been pursuing in this thread. 

It is kind of you to stand up for Sublustris, but what exactly are you standing up for? There are rules here and his post about killing people was at least a very bold assumption and at most a provocative slander. Think about it, or don't. Either way I am going to follow your advice and not participate in this anymore. 

He didn't break the rules with what he initially said, and it was neither a bold assumption nor a provocative slander. It was an appropriate, clever response to an inappropriate comment by another Russian user. If you had recognized that, the thread never would have devolved. Now that's all settled, hopefully we can keep the thread from going that direction again, although if Sublustris wants to respond to what was said towards them, that's their right.