My reply in other thread

I honestly think what I wrote there and thus won't buy Humankind with Denuvo. Therefore if they ever remove it, I'll buy it in some sale, which means less money for developer and publisher... so how does Denuvo (which thay pay for) help them in my case? And I believe it's not just my case...

PS: I bought all other Amplitude games for full listed price either at launch or preorder.

Look at today`s news: Might and Magic X: Legacy from 2014 made by Limbic/Ubisoft the latest from one of the most iconic RPG series ever made spanning over decades (Might and Magic 1 was released in 1986) had it`s DRM servers closed and because of the heavy DRM Ubisoft used in Might and Magic X, you can`t play it`s DLC anymore and also the players can`t progress past act 1 in the main game, making the game unusable. In response to the user`s cry for help because the game they own or just bought can`t be played anymore due to DRM servers closing, Ubisoft just pulled the game form Steam. This is what the future may also hold for Humankind or any DRM heavy game. Just search the internet about this topic and see for yourselves.

GlorySign wrote:

This is what the future may also hold for Humankind

I love how ominous that sounds out of context.

I must admit, I find this whole Denuvo thing rather concerning but I do have faith in Amplitude and think that they wouldn't purposefully do anything directly malicious to us. As to whether or not we can get them to get Denuvo removed is a different story and I'm not certain in that regard.

SpikedWallMan wrote:

CristataC wrote:

What is Denuvo?

Just googled it. Anti Piracy that makes a game require internet connection.

eh,

The big deal for me is that when Denuvo decides to turn off their authentication servers (because they go out of business, because some Denuvo accountant decides that "legacy" servers that are not worth the maintenance cost, it ends up being a huge security risk like SecuROM/SafeDisc, etc.), then your copy of Humankind that you paid for stops working forever.  In the meantime, the software pirates will undoubtedly crack it in short order and will get a far better experience than the paying customers.

Except that whole narrative relies on the idea that the Devs won't just remove denuvo from their game if it goes bankrupt or shuts its servers down

ElegantCaveman wrote:

I originally wrote this as a post on the Steam forum, but it got slipped under the rug and quietly added to a mass thread where it's unlikely to get seen by actual Amplitude staff.

So here I am, reposting it, because—yes—I'm that petty, and I want my message to get through. I hope you feel at least a tiny bit bad. And I hope your next game doesn't have Denuvo.

As I mentioned further in the Steam thread, there's not much I can do about this other than vote with my wallet and speak up.

Original post follows:

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I've been with you since the beta of Endless Space, an early access game before Steam even had a thing officially called Early Access.

For a long time, you were on my very tiny list of developers from whom I'd buy things at launch automatically, because of the trust I had in you.

I bought the collector's/deluxe editions of all your games up to Endless Space 2. I even bought Endless Legend at launch, despite the fact that the computer I had at the time couldn't even run it. That's how much faith I had in you (and it was well-placed for EL, to be fair).

ES2 was a shit-show, though, and that got you taken off the list.

You said selling out to SEGA wouldn't change anything, but I think it did. It's what I'll choose to believe, at least. The alternative is that it's entirely your fault, and that would make me even sadder.

As rough as all that was, I was cautiously optimistic when you announced Humankind, because it looked really interesting.

But Denuvo?

That's the final nail in your coffin.

Once again, I'll blame SEGA, but I'm done with you.

I know I'm just one person, and I don't matter, but I've been with you since the beginning, and I loved you; you've broken my heart, and I had to let you know.

I mean that's the trade-off that they're making losing some customers that dislike it but lowering piracy numbers. Generally I agree with your sentiment but quite frankly you are just being petty and a bit rude if your against the idea don't buy the game, you didn't need to make this post.

Good news! They listened to us! Well, kind of. It's a good result, anyway!

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/forums/168-general/threads/41273-the-day-amplitude-broke-my-heart?page=5#post-323003

Yes indeed! Locking this thread as we have responded here: https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/forums/168-general/threads/41273-the-day-amplitude-broke-my-heart?page=5#post-323003