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10 years ago
Jun 7, 2014, 10:26:38 PM
I quite like the indirect control system, but you should be able to highlight a single mob as a target priority. Heroes then attack that target if they are in the same room.
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10 years ago
Jun 5, 2014, 10:09:15 AM
PANCZASU wrote:
Can you please keep this typo in as "normal" difficulty?




Hope you're ready to some trolling from game engine

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10 years ago
Jun 5, 2014, 1:00:47 PM
On "Easy": Got to the third Floor with Ken, and Ken alone. Survived for 12 doors solo, but couldn't produce enough food. Getting swarmed pretty badly still on the second level. Lost DV8 and The warden because of swarms. Had three of them orc/troll baddies swarm me, and I just couldn't heal fast enough.
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10 years ago
Jun 5, 2014, 2:23:50 PM
I think we should change strategy, might create more food instead of industry
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10 years ago
Jun 7, 2014, 2:31:42 PM
Ok open one more door is to risky.

I open one more after finding the exit, just to finish a research, and here what I get :



http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/561009955256961172/80112137A79C5AFBBF3D9162EB256C53E14E0100/



I survive, but the broke all my major module.



So I will try this run without opening door after exit, to see if it's possible to finish.

I let you know. I at level 5 for the moment, and a good team of well stuffed/leveled heros.



But a bit short in terms of research.
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10 years ago
Jun 7, 2014, 3:41:57 PM
AgentDerf wrote:
Ok open one more door is to risky.

I open one more after finding the exit, just to finish a research, and here what I get :



I survive, but the broke all my major module.




Just finish my first succesfull try on post 0.7.7 version. So here's my thoughts:

Seblasters + Bio-transference = best choise for current version.

On floor 4 (as i see on you picture) you need to have at least Tesla modules, lvl 3 or 4. But im more deeper stages, you need to have an AoE damaging module.

And, concidering how many enemies game can spawn in last patch, Seblasters are more preferable than Claymores. They deal high damage to everyone in room, but frendly damage is pretty small, and can be easily negated with Bio-transference.

So, fill evey room om monsters way with Seblasters, or add Neurostun or Tear, if room have >=4 small nodes. For main defence room, 1 or 2 Bio-transference and Seblasters.

Yes, this is pretty expensive, and you need a lot of resourses. So pal's are incredibly helpful now (Pal(v2) = 2 smiley: foodsmiley: industrysmiley: science per turn/per module, Pal(v4) = 3).

For safe production rooms all small nodes for Pal's. But only when you secure the main way (2 or more full rooms; significantly more, if level have golems).

For later levels (>7) you'll need at least 4 full rooms, to say that this way is safe.
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10 years ago
Jun 7, 2014, 4:10:53 PM
After patch...still got that giant wave in Too Easy later floors...shame I forgot to take screenshot of those massive Silic waves...
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10 years ago
Jun 7, 2014, 8:26:16 PM
In "later floors" it is pretty normal to see giant waves.

It just wasn't supposed to happen in floor 2 as on the initial screenshot.
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10 years ago
Jun 7, 2014, 8:42:19 PM
Finally made it into the end.



The spike in difficulty is in the 2nd, 3rd and (in part 4th) floors, after these, game kept sending waves, but they were pretty manageable, specially using the good old tower defense tactic of make corridors filled with neurostun and seblasters (that seems to replace the claymore mines in terms of efficience anti-mobs here).



The door openers also were a bit difficult to manage because of the DAMN targeting system, where the hero started to hit ANY other mob than the door opener.



I still feel the targeting system should be a priority for the devs - making it NON-STATIC - meaning that many 'if/then' variables should be applied: IF a door opener is hitting a door, THEN it should be a priority. IF its the power room, THEN the dust eaters should take priority.
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10 years ago
Jun 5, 2014, 9:57:46 AM
I retry last evening after the hotfix, it's less harder... but it's still to hard I thing for the moment.

I'm an experience player, I have finish several time the game before on "easy" mode.

Now I manage to survive on the edge of death. And I'm just a in the smaller level with the smaller mob.

I can't imagine higher level with pop of harder mob by 6 or 8 in pack, with some other mob to handle.



And I can't not imagine a new player who just bought the game handle that kind of difficulty.
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10 years ago
Jun 9, 2014, 2:13:52 PM
I like the AAR setup now, it really mixes things up once you've found the exit. Instead f reaping whatever other benefits the floor has after finding the exit you now have a choice to move on or risk it all to finish researching or find a merchant etc.
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10 years ago
Jun 11, 2014, 9:03:30 PM
I have never ever finished the game on Too Easy - or I did such a long time ago that I don't remember, end/or it does not apply anymore.



Now, even after the hotfix, I steadily die on huge mobs on floor 2. The last few games I tried, I was obliterated in seconds there.

Difficulty curve should definitely be bashed down a few notches.
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10 years ago
Jun 12, 2014, 7:22:07 AM
Hmm, then I guess you are doing something wrong. smiley: ohh

With 0.7.10 I could win on Easy. It was not Easy and I had massive trouble in Floor 9. But I somehow managed to survive it and was lucky in floor 10 to find the exit quickly enough to end it with the 2 heros that survived in floor 9.
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10 years ago
Jun 12, 2014, 7:47:33 AM
One of the problems of the actual version of the game is the snowball effect that the door-openers bring to it. Add this to the AWFUL targeting system, the mass mobs with pass through your defenses and heroes going straight to the power room, and you end up with an unmanageable ARMAGGEDON in your hands.



The game is freaking unbalanced now - as I never seen before. And not simply unbalanced in the sense that things are pretty hard, but in the sense that LUCK counts more than anything now. Sometimes you finish the game smooth and easily, then other times you can't pass floor 2.



I just came from a game with the most impressive BADASS team you could see - Gork Lvl 15, Elise Lvl 14, Ken lvl 14 and Raky lvl 14 - a MASSIVE amount of industry and food, almost ALL tecnologies (but all that mattered)... and yet I lost because I couldnt stop a SINGLE door-opener where the same problem I described in the other tread happened: Ken (my door-opener for obvious reasons) couldnt TARGET the damn goblin in a rhynoceros among other mobs. The door-opener open a door and spawned more door-openers AND two boss-monster-devil, the spawned door-openers opened MORE doors and in the end something like 15 enhanced dust-eaters reached the power room, bringing it down in a matter of seconds. And meanwhile, the heroes were damaging EVERYTHING around, no sweat. All because snowballing door-openers plus bad targeting.



I think its time the devs start thinking on bring caps to the mobs. It's freaking ridiculous as it is now.
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10 years ago
Jun 12, 2014, 7:58:09 AM
I agree with you fabs.
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10 years ago
Jun 12, 2014, 10:32:09 AM
Hi,



Thank you very much for your feedback; we really appreciate it. We understand you seem to be upset with the game in its current state but keep in mind that we are always open to the discussion, so there is really no need to be aggressive smiley: smile



For the targeting system, please see this post.



As explained in the dev blog, we rewrote the entire game configuration in the last update with a new approach in addition to many other changes, that’s why we added a warning on the current balancing. We are reading attentively all your posts and working to reduce the importance of the luck factor.
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10 years ago
Jun 13, 2014, 3:40:20 PM
I personally would like to have a hotkey, that brings up a list with all monster-types currently active and you being able to sort those in the order they should be attacked.

With smart-targetting by the AI, there will always be circumstances, where someone would have done it differently.
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10 years ago
Jun 4, 2014, 12:28:31 AM
Happened to me too. Out of blue, a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE mob. 6th floor. Heroes on level 10. Room with four slots filled with bio-organic transference modules.



Spent 200 in food to keep them alive, but it was useless. Too many targets. The heroes basically died from a thousand papercuts.



Difficulty level: TOO EASY! ¬¬
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10 years ago
Jun 4, 2014, 1:42:12 AM
Can't get off floor 2 on "Easy" difficulty. Mobs are eating through the heroes too quickly, and I can't get enough science to start buying minor modules yet. Learning curve still being mounted.
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