CaptainCobbs wrote:

FromSoft uses EAC, not a great example

Agreed.  I have heard rumors that it can be bypassed in Elden Ring, but the fact that FromSoft put EAC in there in the first place makes them a bad example.

Its been 4 months and judging from the steam charts and review count, I believe its safe to say that the release window is over now.

Give it 2 more years till they stop updating it and release on GOG.

DragonGaming wrote:

Its been 4 months and judging from the steam charts and review count, I believe its safe to say that the release window is over now.

In four days, it will be three months, but nevertheless, I agree with you; the release period is long past, and sales should have already dropped to a minimum. According to SteamDB, the game now has only between 30 and 160 players concurrently each day. Therefore, Denuvo seems to have long fulfilled its (supposed) purpose and is entirely unnecessary:

I sincerely hope that Denuvo will now be removed from the game, and I can FINALLY play the game that I pre-ordered...

Please, Amplitude, stop ignoring us all for so long. It's starting to feel like you're spitting on us.

Not sure, if I'd buy Endless Dungeon, now. I didn't buy on release because of Denuvo. Waiting for better reviews, as long as the current content/replay value seems to lack.

Today marks exactly six months since Endless Dungeon was released. Despite expressing my dislike for Denuvo before the release, I still pre-ordered the game. I had trusted that Denuvo was only meant to protect potential sales during the release period, but that this software would be removed later. However, to this day, that has not happened. That's why, while I own Endless Dungeon, I haven't installed or played it yet (except for the Insider Preview to provide feedback).

I am truly disappointed. Amplitude remains completely silent, ignoring this extremely popular thread for ages and not signaling in any way that Denuvo will be removed anytime soon. My disappointment with my once-favorite developer has grown so much that I must reluctantly say that I will no longer purchase additional content for Endless Dungeon. I also won't pre-order any games from Amplitude anymore unless it is explicitly stated by Amplitude that they will refrain from using Denuvo and similar software in future games.

I say this as someone who was so loyal to Amplitude that I even bought all the DLCs for Endless Space 2, even though I didn't enjoy the game nearly as much as ES1 or my beloved Endless Legend. But times change, people change, business partners change (hello SEGA). Perhaps Amplitude will eventually return to its roots, or maybe it's time for me to bid farewell to Amplitude.

Best regards, Khaar

Still haven't bought it.  It's sort of fallen off my radar at this point so I didn't realize that they still haven't removed the DRM.

I guess there's maybe some truth to the "first two weeks" myth that Denuvo uses to scare devs - except that the way the story really goes is that if you don't grab the attention of people like me in the first two weeks then I forget to buy it until there's a massive sale that reminds me to check if the DRM has been removed. So the devs are losing money either way, but the key difference here is that there was definitely a lost preorder from me instead of some vague "lost sales due to piracy" statistic that can't be measured or proved.

This is truly sickening to read. Why create this G2G AMPLiFiERS thing if you just ignore the most popular topic. No wonder the player base is nearly dead, not to mention these forums...

So, uhh...  It's been "a few weeks" - about 52, in fact.  I think that you probably won't lose any sales to "The Pirates (TM)" now if you remove the Denuvo at this point?

​After Amplitude so shamefully ignored this thread, I felt quite disappointed as a loyal player who has been around since Endless Space 1, and I even announced that I wouldn’t pre-order any more games from Amplitude.

Amplitude, you've lost the trust of many of your most loyal fans. But you can also earn it back. Removing Denuvo from Endless Dungeon with a patch would be the first step.

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Khaar wrote:

​After Amplitude so shamefully ignored this thread, I felt quite disappointed as a loyal player who has been around since Endless Space 1, and I even announced that I wouldn’t pre-order any more games from Amplitude.

Amplitude, you've lost the trust of many of your most loyal fans. But you can also earn it back. Removing Denuvo from Endless Dungeon with a patch would be the first step.

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We are not ignoring the thread at all, believe me. But there is not much I can say about the topic to be honest.

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Had this game on my wishlist for a long time.

I see Denuvo, I skip. Same for PSN account.

I doubt that the "benefits" of Denuvo offset the sales you don't make.

No benefits for legal buyers at the end of the day.

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Daarkarrow wrote:

We are not ignoring the thread at all, believe me. But there is not much I can say about the topic to be honest.

​Oh, I was so excited by the news that Amplitude is splitting from SEGA that I completely forgot to write:

"NOW THAT YOU’VE LEFT SEGA, remove Denuvo from Endless Dungeon with a patch."

It was always clear to me and most others here that your hands were tied by SEGA. SEGA has a strict Denuvo policy that you couldn’t avoid. But now, with Amplitude independent again, the foundation has been laid to finally leave Denuvo behind.

Apart from the Insider Test, I still haven’t played Endless Dungeon, even though I pre-ordered it. I’m sure SpikedWallMan and many others are just as hopeful to finally be able to play the game.

Moving on from SEGA is no guarantee they'll be able to take the games they made with them, and do what they want about that, is it? I do have good hopes *future* Amplitude games won't have DRM, but I wouldn't assume TED is "free" just from that announcement alone... ^^;

I hope Denuvo can be removed now.

But the harder pill to swallow is that the game is very shallow compared to it's original iteration.

I'm looking forward to the Humankind patches.