Some pretty cool ideas especially around forcing food instead of industry. Does Diplomacy Blossoms in War make The Unfallen a faction people wouldn't want to ally with (ie if I don't want to get dragged into a war)? Pretty cool idea.. I AM GROOT.

Frogsquadron wrote:

DevildogFF wrote:

 

They are the natural enemies of the Cravers and after losing many planets to their destructiveness, have developed specific defenses to them. Their long history as one of many of the Cravers' slaves have led them to raze themselves rather than have one of their planets occupied. 

I'm afraid you can't do that, Dave (don't refer to another faction in your bio, otherwise you can't "meet them for the first time" in-game). Submission otherwise fine. :)

Fixed :)

Frogsquadron wrote:

DevildogFF wrote:

 

They are the natural enemies of the Cravers and after losing many planets to their destructiveness, have developed specific defenses to them. Their long history as one of many of the Cravers' slaves have led them to raze themselves rather than have one of their planets occupied. 

I'm afraid you can't do that, Dave (don't refer to another faction in your bio, otherwise you can't "meet them for the first time" in-game). Submission otherwise fine. :)

Can you mention the Endless though, seeing as they are no a playable faction and have had a role in the development of other playable races?

Luring wrote:

Cool idea. If hull points are a thing, maybe they could have regenerate as well? Healing between each "phase" of combat and getting fully restored between turns?

Yeah, that would be cool. If The Unfallen win, I'll have to see what the dev team thinks would work, balance wise!

A lot of good ideas!

And I love the way they are without industry, intelligent one.

lolplayer101 wrote:

but can you consume them in your salads ?

What dressing do you prefer? 

Wow, just wow. I had the same idea with fungi-humanoids but your idea is so much better.

I vote for you!

Nice idea.

BUT CAN I PLANT THEM?!

Let me know if you guys think anything here wouldn't work well! I hope you like The Unfallen!

sarin555 wrote:

BUT CAN I PLANT THEM?!

HOW DO YOU THINK THEY COLONIZE OTHER PLANETS!?! 

;)

ederrick wrote:

Some pretty cool ideas especially around forcing food instead of industry. Does Diplomacy Blossoms in War make The Unfallen a faction people wouldn't want to ally with (ie if I don't want to get dragged into a war)? Pretty cool idea.. I AM GROOT.

It's not necessarily allies that get dragged in, but rather anyone that they're not at war with and don't have an unfavorable view of the Unfallen. 

I definitely think of the "saplings" as being very much Groot-like, though without all the trademarks surround him ;)

Its always interesting to forgo a whole branch of the FIDS, which changes how you look at the science tech tree and I like how you have linked in the focus on food, with requiring population to build ships.

I think you will find that forcing someone into a war with you probably will not work too well outside of AI, which is fine, but in a multiplayer game if you had to force someone into a war for you, then they will probably not really want to help you and will just try to stay out of the conflict since its none of their business.

Digitalhawk96 wrote:

Its always interesting to forgo a whole branch of the FIDS, which changes how you look at the science tech tree and I like how you have linked in the focus on food, with requiring population to build ships.

I think you will find that forcing someone into a war with you probably will not work too well outside of AI, which is fine, but in a multiplayer game if you had to force someone into a war for you, then they will probably not really want to help you and will just try to stay out of the conflict since its none of their business.

You could just have the same trait act differently in Single or Multiplayer games. For example, it could give human players an incentive to fight.

Digitalhawk96 wrote:

Its always interesting to forgo a whole branch of the FIDS, which changes how you look at the science tech tree and I like how you have linked in the focus on food, with requiring population to build ships.

I think you will find that forcing someone into a war with you probably will not work too well outside of AI, which is fine, but in a multiplayer game if you had to force someone into a war for you, then they will probably not really want to help you and will just try to stay out of the conflict since its none of their business.

I think there's way around making this an issue. It much like the Drakken's force peace command. You'd basically have to make a turn minimum and incentivize participation. 

Luring wrote:

Cool idea. If hull points are a thing, maybe they could have regenerate as well? Healing between each "phase" of combat and getting fully restored between turns?

Do you think using food in some way would make sense? Problem is, you don't accumulate food like you accumulate dust...

First off, great ideas. But I second the concern about forcing other factions to join a war with you. A human player would be placed in the "war" state, but would simply just ignore the fighting. In all previous Endless games the factions are all designed such that there is no difference (in theory) if it is being played by a human or AI. I feel they want to preserve this in ES2.

Also, how are the Unfallen able to expand and retake systems stolen from them if they can't declare war themselves? This seems like a huge handicap. But you have a strong concept with which you could fix these issues. I have faith. For instance, in my submission I allow for war to be declared, but there are military traits that make fighting highly unfavorable. Keep up the great work!

carolean7 wrote:

First off, great ideas. But I second the concern about forcing other factions to join a war with you. A human player would be placed in the "war" state, but would simply just ignore the fighting. In all previous Endless games the factions are all designed such that there is no difference (in theory) if it is being played by a human or AI. I feel they want to preserve this in ES2.

Also, how are the Unfallen able to expand and retake systems stolen from them if they can't declare war themselves? This seems like a huge handicap. But you have a strong concept with which you could fix these issues. I have faith. For instance, in my submission I allow for war to be declared, but there are military traits that make fighting highly unfavorable. Keep up the great work!

Maybe a similar mechanic to one introduced in Endless Legend. This is not the first faction that wouldn't be able to declare war.