I'm hearing about bugs and problems with the new DLC. 

I don't know how much of it is just people not understanding the game and how much of it is actual errors in the game.

What I'm wondering is if I should bother with a playthrough now or should I wait until a bug fix patch is released?

Lesson learned ?

Only played a little bit, but noticed bugs with tool tips not properly displaying inside the technology screen (when hovering over tech icons - some would and some wouldnt show info). It also seem like the faction icon (for the new faction) wasn't showing up under some of the technologies that had changed uniquely for them (notably the tech that gives you a different science planet specialization for +5 science).

I got a lock up 20 turns into my first campaign and had to restart.40 turns into my second and fine so sar.

The texture for the Nakalim homeworld is just a slightly modified satelite image of Earth. It doesn't even look like a desert...

https://www.reddit.com/r/EndlessSpace/comments/d38t73/why_nakalim_homeworld_so_similar_to_earth_you_can/

Sublustris wrote:

Lesson learned ?

Apparently not...

Not sure about you guys but I've played one game where i did not deal with pirates early on, and the result was AIs continuously placing pirate marks on my systems every single turn until all of the pirates died. This did not happer prior to the dlc being released today.

abhBIT wrote:

Not sure about you guys but I've played one game where i did not deal with pirates early on, and the result was AIs continuously placing pirate marks on my systems every single turn until all of the pirates died. This did not happer prior to the dlc being released today.

That happens to me all the time. Especially if the Vaulters or Lumeris are in the game.

Well, maybe if they fix the bugs I'll pick up the DLC. But there's a whole host of new bugs, reported bugs that were not fixed, and old bugs resurfaced that puts me off right now.

What I'm wondering is if any of these bugs were noticed by the VIPs in testing. 

I mean some of them are glaring and make no sense to leave in the game and launch with. I'm considering refunding the DLC at this point...that's something I never consider with Amplitude games. I was really excited for this DLC.

Asleep.

I refunded. This will take a long time to fix and I want to play the game san the expansion and not give Amplitude my money for shoddy/rushed work.

I had an inkling when they said September 12th that it was too soon but I trusted they would pull it off. 

The thing is that if Humankind is taking all their attention they should leave this expansion for after. 

Well I can wait until it is sorted. 

auspiciousCuttlefish wrote:

The texture for the Nakalim homeworld is just a slightly modified satelite image of Earth. It doesn't even look like a desert...

https://www.reddit.com/r/EndlessSpace/comments/d38t73/why_nakalim_homeworld_so_similar_to_earth_you_can/

Don't go to Reddit. Just don't.
I can't even believe that you guys really think that they used Earth 'cause of their laziness.

You really think that desert planet automaticly means space-Sahara and that old human empire is in no way connected with Mezari?

I can see problems with AI, bugs and balance in a new DLC, but Sobra is what it is intended to be.

Really bad QA guys like the bad old days of the release version.

Not to dimish other people's experiences, but I've played about 10 hours on the update and haven't encountered any bugs.

The new content is great. Not sure it's very balanced, but it is great. The stuff with the Academy makes a lot of otherwise redundant resources have a use. The rewards are incredibly strong which is why I'm not entirely convinced they are balanced. Having a late game fleet flying around on turn 30 is, errrr, interesting(!!!) I suspect the extra political party reward is stronger late game, as it lets you pull off some silly strong law combos if you have the influence to fuel them.

The Nakalim are more conventional than the Umbral Choir, which is fine, but have a few tricky mechanics that will be fun to work out how to maximise. They are definitely a hero orientated faction which makes sense. Overall, the game feels like it's in a really good place. There are important decisions to make nearly every turn now, so the game has an amazing amount of depth compared to every other 4X out there.

The patch also seems to have sorted some AI issues. For example - the last game I played the Vodyani were actually doing well. Still some problems with Hissho, who could really do with some love - they are easily the weakest faction in the game right now (unless I'm missing something).

I think the announcement of Humankind has thrown some people into a frenzy of "they're abandoning and gotten lazy". I don't think that's fair. Even if this was the last expansion, I think the game has reached a good zenith.

I think having my first campaign stuck 20 turns in on pending was not a frenzy it is reality.

OurDysphoria wrote:

Don't go to Reddit. Just don't.

Why not?

I can't even believe that you guys really think that they used Earth 'cause of their laziness.

You really think that desert planet automaticly means space-Sahara

I mean, have you seen other Desert planets in this game? How can you even describe planet as "desert", if 70% of its surface is filled with water?

 and that old human empire is in no way connected with Mezari?

This has nothing to do with how Sobra looks. Earth isn't in ES universe, stated by Emperor Writer himself, period.

stated by Emperor Writer himself, period.

Can you then provide me with link or quote?

How can you even describe planet as "desert", if 70% of its surface is filled with water?

Is this water drinkable without special equipment?

Not buying anything until the devs fix some basic problems that should have been fixed since the beginning and still haunt us today.

I don´t care for new factions until they fix the total disfunctional and useless automated governors/supervisors. Late game in big galaxies is a micromanaging nightmare.

And we stil don´t have Rally Point for fleets! Even Endless Space 1 had those!!!!!

Unbelievable...

Promises, promises...