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6 years ago
Sep 17, 2019, 9:04:44 PM

Personnally, i asked for a refund. Not that i encountered many bugs but the new faction and mechanics just aren't fun. The nakalim race is poorly designed and the academy faction, i don't really care much : bidding for an overpowered fleet doesn't strike me as good game design.


Also, they are still the usual flaws of endless space 2 : minor factions don't matter as they are all gone by turn 60 in endless difficulty, the AI is still braindead and unchallenging and as always, production is still the only figure that matters.

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6 years ago
Sep 17, 2019, 9:42:24 PM
Slashman wrote:
Keimpe wrote:


The reviews on Steam suggest that you may have been lucky or just not noticed the bugs.  


I for one don't believe 'reviews' a day after the release. One guy gave a thumbs down because he couldn't find the diplomacy button for the Academy. I mean, seriously, that is a thumbs down? Also, steam reviews or negative or positive. If people encounter one flaw, it is an immediate negative. Therefore i never trust steam and its review mechanics.

Also, i wouldn't recommend mentioning these reviews as a positive for what is true. 


To state that they abandoned Endless space 2 for Humankind, is counterintuitive seen that they just released a dlc for Endless space :\


Bugs will always be an issue for games. A hotfix just released for some issues.

I am sure more patches will follow, as they always did.


Ummm yes sure there are some ouliers in Steam reviews. But I'm not a novice that looks at people who have no play time or make frivolous claims. All of the reviews I noted had people with issues aligning with what is reported in the forums. 


If the game was A-Ok would they have issued a hot fix with promise of more patches to come down the road?


Again you have reading comprehension issues. I did not state that they abandoned the game or any such silliness. I stated that this is a rushed job to get to Humankind. Those were my exact words. I was here from the days of Endless Space. I was here when Endless Space 2 launched with its issues and when they posted a statement to say that they were never going to rush a launch and were revising their patch and testing processes to do better. This is not better.


If you have not had issues that's great. Or maybe you just didn't notice them. But I'm perfectly willing to wait until they clean it up a bit and the reviews reflect this train of thought.



Yes as i said i am not taking the reviews seriously or the thumb up or thumb down system. Of course, it has issues. And yes i have been here as well from day one with endless. I just don't make an assumption that they rushed a job to get to Humankind, because of the fact that they released a DLC. And i don't think they rushed the DLC, i think they took their bloody time.  I do agree it has issues, but not worth a thumb down. Just a patch, as any game has patches, this ingenious 4x game is no exception.

To give them no slack or any time to recover the mistake is beyond me. (This is not personal to you, but a feeling i get overall)


Reviewing a day after its release after finding something that is not working like it should, sounds like a spoilt child to me. Instant gratification issues.

Instead of those 'reviews' one could report a flaw that he found (like i did, 4 times since this dlc), and wait for the patch to fix it. I don't see why an instant thumb down is necessarry.


I am more willing to wait, and play a bit more.


" If the game was A-Ok would they have issued a hot fix with promise of more patches to come down the road? 


Yes! It also means the team is  A-ok. 




Regards,




  



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6 years ago
Sep 17, 2019, 11:42:49 PM

As some good fellow has stated already, devs sure act wierdly about this Awakening. It was an Awakening for me, a rude one. First of all ,all those days, and absolutely no answers from them? 


Secondly, this Weird -Earth thing - after ***that kind of a strong NO, NEVER, NAY, NA-AH, A BIG NO-NO*** from a dev one would think Awakening would have flying elephant-mantises as a playable race - not a biggest "uggh" a writer can himself imagine. 


In my thread I suggested changing the desert type into ash - also changing the planet as well - if they respect their playerbase at all -  It's much simplier.


Right now, those "humanoids" of Nakalim bring dishonour, as their race is the quite the weakest one, even when played properly, certainly most bland and faulty. 

FFS, there's a lore-tab, the first ever, that says that "Nakalim were nurtured by the Endless and gather their artifacts" - how this s*it could fly past the radar? Also Marusia, Queen of Egypy. Gimme a break.


I really don't like dev's behaviour of last days, it's like they jumped ship to Humankind already and they know they blew it, but won't say it. Shame.

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6 years ago
Sep 18, 2019, 5:20:30 AM
aieuxi1 wrote:

To those saying they haven't encountered bugs, they are there.


It really is quite shocking in this day and age that the norm is to charge people £11 for a DLC riddled with this many bugs and seemingly rushed content. The mentality in the gaming industry of 'release now, fix later' needs to stop. Also, as many have pointed out, there are countless bugs which have been reported and still have not been fixed dating to over a year ago, as well as things like the lore pass on the tech tree being forgotten about. Why even bother with a forum called 'games2gether' if you will only employ selective hearing in regards to it and completely forget about problems with the content in the delusional hopes that we will too? If this is the mentality then I don't see how you expect to have a loyal customer base to continue forward with games like 'Humanity' and any further projects. It is genuinely reputation ruining at this point and need to be addressed internally.



Wholeheartedly agree.

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6 years ago
Sep 18, 2019, 4:58:00 PM

And...third time in a raw the game lock's itself! Now turn 115 via infinity pending! ... That's terrible...and all these three times were after tha last hotfix so...

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6 years ago
Sep 18, 2019, 5:00:00 PM

There were no mentions of hotfixing end turn lock. I don't know what gave you that idea.

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6 years ago
Sep 18, 2019, 5:17:23 PM

@Keimpe

I am aware that you are speaking of me lol


It's not that I couldn't find it, it's that it wasn't there and that I had an inability to meet the Academy even after them finding me multiple times, as well as me docking at the academy home system. I would also like to point out that that is but one of the complaints I had, I made a whole list, most with screenshots, so claiming that that is my argument is unfair.


At the time of reviewing the game was, in my opinion, unplayable, and I thought that other people should know.

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6 years ago
Sep 18, 2019, 5:27:37 PM
Sublustris wrote:

There were no mentions of hotfixing end turn lock. I don't know what gave you that idea.

Ha...I am not talking about that. What I mean, that I played several games with nakalim with no problems, and then, after new hotfix I got three games screwd in a raw. And while the last time problem lies in pending, the previous ones simply freese at the beginning of certain turn. I understand, that is probably my luck but...flustrating.

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6 years ago
Sep 19, 2019, 1:21:34 AM

Nothing ruins any game than bad state save file. Multiple patches?DLCs and game still can stop working out of the blue. Ive tried 4 games so far after latest DLC and only ONE was completed  bug free. And sad thing is - it was the state of the game from the beginning. Vodyani ships moving parts on gun ports still bugged and forgotten, autoresolving battles with pirates still sometimes a draw with ark participating and so on. Bug list grows but critical bugs still alive after all this time. You cant stick with game which can suddenly stop working and even reload wont help - it is 4x after all with hours needed to play on large map. Now studio moves to new project because this one is not profitable enough - i wonder why...

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6 years ago
Sep 19, 2019, 2:02:01 AM
Vind wrote:

Nothing ruins any game than bad state save file. Multiple patches?DLCs and game still can stop working out of the blue. Ive tried 4 games so far after latest DLC and only ONE was completed  bug free. And sad thing is - it was the state of the game from the beginning. Vodyani ships moving parts on gun ports still bugged and forgotten, autoresolving battles with pirates still sometimes a draw with ark participating and so on. Bug list grows but critical bugs still alive after all this time. You cant stick with game which can suddenly stop working and even reload wont help - it is 4x after all with hours needed to play on large map. Now studio moves to new project because this one is not profitable enough - i wonder why...

Because this game is old? You cannot reap the same rewards in an old game that you can with a new one. DLCs never sell more than the original game and they are priced signifcantly less.

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6 years ago
Sep 22, 2019, 12:16:33 AM

I got a bug where my faction quest won't progress in ENDLESS LEGEND. A game that is hella old and should be bug-free by now. So I and my other player wasted 7 hours of playing thanks to the devs attitude towards patching. I hoped that amplitude was better than some other AAA devs but *sigh*. Thank god I didn't buy this dlc, another buggy mess.

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6 years ago
Sep 22, 2019, 5:12:03 AM
Livers wrote:

I got a bug where my faction quest won't progress in ENDLESS LEGEND. A game that is hella old and should be bug-free by now. So I and my other player wasted 7 hours of playing thanks to the devs attitude towards patching. I hoped that amplitude was better than some other AAA devs but *sigh*. Thank god I didn't buy this dlc, another buggy mess.


That's overstating. Already an optional patch is out. Under beta in steam.


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