Would you like to sign this petition?

Honestly, by the way overcolonization system was implemented (what the hell population approval, out of all possible things like upkeep or build order delays, has to do with overcolonization), with +240% DPS +50% Resistance hero fleet bonuses and double infantry numbers from Tikaran(?) assimilation trait (which becomes triple if you assimilate two of them), with the way science works (95% of science achievements are gated behind non-upgradeable production sinks so being ahead in science is pointless - you either build fast and research slow or research fast and build slow) etc I do not believe that there will be any improvement because design people behind 4X part are not very talented, which is very sad, considering that most creative aspects behind the game are outstanding.

First post here! ES2 has been my favorite 4X game for a while. Hope we can keep getting updates to improve how the game plays! :)

Mourioche wrote:

Yes please !

At this point and like it is said in several threads:

- Spear of islander is breaking the game.

      https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/endless-space-2/forums/65-general/threads/35393-spear-of-isyander-breaking-the-game

- Academy is ruining the game.

     https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/endless-space-2/forums/65-general/threads/35372-academy-is-ruining-game

My personnal opinion is above this,

Because even in a game where you are far enought from academy and spear of islander erea of effect,

The academy can be and should be completly ignored...

In my games ressources are counted and i have something else to do with them than give these ressources to the academy,

Because i play in FFA against AI in endless, i cannot compete with all AI to take first places in academy contest.

And ressources demanded, i can simply have no access, placing me out of the academy game...

Academy should be developed in other way, like give quest to player, access others law, access other or/and more heroes... something else than that is done in awakening DLC.

So: Academy ruin the game or can be ignored if you are "lucky"... Give me a good reason to activate this DLC ?

So, actually, i play with the awakening DLC disabled.

This DLC should be reworked, and no only adjusted.

With the community mod and awakening disable, this game is still great to continue to have good game, and this is the game configuration i now use.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1467372500

I don't think that this petition can be usefull for a complete awakening reworking, but in case of... i signed it...

Of course, if something is done (in a far future because of Humankind...), i will enable this DLC again...

Nakalim is a good idea and something different to be played... it's too bad i have to disable them.

Other points, like fleet size since awakening is IMO not something good.

As game start, a maximum fleet size of 7 is good, this should not be changed like it is changed in awakening.

While disable this DLC, i also disable this point.

Agreed. I was looking forward to Awakening, but it makes for such an unsatisfying game play experinece I also ended up disabling the expansion.  I just did not enjoy the Academy becoming an expanding empire, it was counter intuative to the point of the organization. It's not an empire. It's specific rules as a non empire empire was just not fun

Mourioche wrote:

But it's now too late for this because game development on endless space 2 is terminated :/

It's not too late! Here we are! Trying... but so far there is a long way to achieve the "overwhelming support".

Sublustris wrote:

Speaking of which, could you convert soundtrack to new content format Steam is using?

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/application/soundtrackapp#conversion

So, Steam Soundtracks are on Sale, and I'm surprised to see Endless OST isn't there, as, apparently, my suggestion was ignored...

this game needs more love i preordered the game and since then i had to deal with the pending turn bug there is also the fact that while the lore of endless space 2 is amazing some abandonment has happened , more than 3 years ago they promised that the tech trre would be updated , in the older tech tree from endless space 1 there was lots of cool descriptions for modules all of them gone now , several ideas were accepted and then cancelled like the craver idea of havong planets changed visually after being depleted something asked since es1

ES2 aka "Endless Pending" would be the best 4x game I`ve met since the first time I`ve touched the keyboard in 1993... but all those bugs, false tooltips, errors, and bunch of them surviving through many patches, even though devs are aware about it - making this game for me just a big presentation of what the best 4x space strategy might look like.

But, from the other point of view - nice pictures sells better, than proper coding. At least on a game market. Because everybody can appreciate a nice picture, what is opposite about code.

That is the true of the day. That is why new DLS`s for ES2 coming before vanilla ES2 happen to be playable as intended without mods and to be cleared from bugs.

And the most important question here - will the new patch bring more money than a new DLC... or a new game. 

Well then  do not forget - the devs are people like us gamers - they want to eat. So, it`s just buisness - nothing personal. 

So everybody, let`s welcome a new game and prepare to pay for a bunch of DLC`s, because it is good for buisness!

Good games can be just business. Great games need to be more than that.

mamarider wrote:

Good games can be just business. Great games need to be more than that.

Well, who will pay for a Great Game? 

Here we can see about 200 of votes. But how many copies of ES2 were sold in total? 

We are just a small bunch of demand. And if there is no substantial demand - there is no significant offer.

I suppose, we need here more than 60% customer`s votes, to be taken in to account. At least 60% of the G2G community.  

And I hope we will have it, because there is a real reasons for this.

Well the "competitive scene" which drives most games is non-existent.
If there were things such as balancing, matchmaking... you know the drill ... there would be so much more exposure.

Right now at this moment there are 8600 people playing  Stellaris on steam. There are 743 playing ES2. I find Stelarris a much worse game, but YMMV. Ask yourself why a year older game has a much stronger player base. What are they doing better then this company?

Cernunan wrote:

Right now at this moment there are 8600 people playing  Stellaris on steam. There are 743 playing ES2. I find Stelarris a much worse game, but YMMV. Ask yourself why a year older game has a much stronger player base. What are they doing better then this company?

It's pretty simple, as long as Paradox has built up a reliable player base within the last 20 years  -> Paradox Interactive

Amplitude - once a small studio - was founded in 2011 and is not that famous as Paradox, yet -> Amplitude Studios

Cernunan wrote:

What are they doing better then this company?

PR

Evgenopolis wrote:

mamarider wrote:

Good games can be just business. Great games need to be more than that.

Well, who will pay for a Great Game? 

This question is only for Good game.

Great game give something of higher value : Reputation.

I'm sure you know or have some idea of what reputation means in the computer gaming world.

For me it would be enough if they fixed crash to desktop bugs. Currently longer games will sooner or later get into situation where game crashes. In Endless Space and Endless Legend at least I can play long marathon games without crashes. It is not very good advertisement to their new games, if they leave endless space 2 to this condition.

Groo wrote:

Cernunan wrote:

Right now at this moment there are 8600 people playing  Stellaris on steam. There are 743 playing ES2. I find Stelarris a much worse game, but YMMV. Ask yourself why a year older game has a much stronger player base. What are they doing better then this company?

It's pretty simple, as long as Paradox has built up a reliable player base within the last 20 years  -> Paradox Interactive

Amplitude - once a small studio - was founded in 2011 and is not that famous as Paradox, yet -> Amplitude Studios

I mean that and the fact that they are constantly releasing updates for stellaris the game has like 17 different DLCs they re adding new stuff all of the time,, also theirdevs hear more their players, they made massive QAs and they made changes suggested by players, that was supposed to be amplitudes thing but they ignored the tech tree fix , 90% of the ideas , although some of them or even several are probably out of scope but many werent like the cravers ideas that were proposed 3 years ago accepted promised and then ignored.

Also stellaris is a different game since there are no preset races there is a greater degree of customization which probably attracts a larger playerbase ( not that is a bad thing for ES since they are focused on less but more unique races which is great too).