Should we do a lore pass on the tech tree?

Frogsquadron wrote:

A lot of you don't see this as an actual choice, but considering we've had over 50 people vote for no (and several hundred votes for yes), there is a portion of our players who'd rather not have this change. We couldn't gauge how much of our playerbase would be in favor without actually asking, hence this vote.

Hope this clears that up. :)

I voted NO precisely because this is a false choice(and I am 4% of the NO vote), when a group of people are 93% in favor of something its pretty obvious the question was asked in-such a way as to have bias towards one answer.

If the previous vote had been "Should we do a Battle Tactics Summary?" instead of being given 3 choices you would have absolutly been working on that instead of the MUCH more popular in-game clock.

Here we go boys.

yep, do this.

I am not sure what the question means by "lore pass" or "harmonize the tech tree". I want to undo my vote but the forum is not letting me. 

Honestly, I'm far more excited about this change than any of the QoL features proposed in the previous vote. 

GeminusLeonem wrote:

It's simple, easy and shouldn't take more than an afternoon to move around some lines of flavour text and a couple of icons... 

I think this is very optimistic. to have a good and self consistent tech tree will be achunk of work...and people making one set or changes are unlikly to be the same writers as those who designed the fluff in the first place.

Anyway - Yes, seems an awesome plan.

Awesome to hear you are putting this out there - I was actually reading a tec tree entry at the weekend and wondering why it didn't physically have much to do with what it actually unlocked. I think this aould be great to do.

Not sure if this is the place to do it but I am experiencing technical difiuculties with the thread about the latest vote. I can seem to change my vote nor edit or delite my post. I keep getting an error message whenever I try.

How does the  technology of the "Cashmir Effect" creat extra food? I deosnt make any sense. Perhapes a new technology should be made for the food related system improvments so that it adds up. Perhapes the Carshir effect should have an impact on the speed of supply and population ships so that it matches witht he discription. 

Never quite understood why you guys don't switch tech descriptions, names and symbols when you switch tech effects since it requires null effort.

It's such a huge oversight that I always thought that the dev responsible for the changes was a tad special and everyone else felt bad about pointing out the mistakes made or something equally ridiculous.

Now that I know it was on purpose I don't know what to think... but please do FIX it. It's simple, easy and shouldn't take more than an afternoon to move around some lines of flavour text and a couple of icons... 

Heck why the hell are you guys even questioning us about this!? This should be a no-brainer! We are not toddlers, we can look at the tech tree and see where things are.... I just... I don't understand this issue... You guys are asking us if fixing the tech tree descriptions would be too confusing! THAT'S JUST MADNESS!!!

I played alot in the early acces on steam, and one of the things I most liked was the tech tree. not the new one, with the cirlce, I personally think this is a step backwards. now I can see why the devs did this, and I see how its useful, but I thought it was much better to have the techs all close together, to make it easier to visually see where the techs are, even if they are still sectioned togehter, it made much more sense to me, than to make a huge wheel out of them

Kareal does have a point. It's not clear from the survey what we'd be giving up in favor of this fix. Our imaginations fill the void, if it even bothers to fill it at all.  

Here is another set of techs that could use some re arranging

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Argi Drugs needs to be switched with slit second ablatives and Applied Cryogenics needs to be switched with extream composites.

Yes, do it!

To answer some of the questions brought up here, we are not talking about reworking the tech tree, or changing the techs themselves in a gameplay sense. The only changes in terms of pure gameplay would be techs/unlocks moving around to fit the tree they're in and the theme of the tech.

A lot of you don't see this as an actual choice, but considering we've had over 50 people vote for no (and several hundred votes for yes), there is a portion of our players who'd rather not have this change. We couldn't gauge how much of our playerbase would be in favor without actually asking, hence this vote.

Hope this clears that up. :)

The lore is what makes the Endless serie so mysterious, attractive, interresting... In one word, so different than other 4X. Sometimes, i play, most of the time, i read and imagine how works this universe. So, yes, this is a great thing to do. 

OMG yes please!  I know it's a weird thing to be irritated by, given how rarely I read those techs, but man, does it bug me!

Yess, but if you guys are going to do this, then rework the whole tech tree. It needs some more tweeking overall.

Yes, but should work on balancing and reworking some of the techs first then add in more lore/flow to the tech tree. I'd also love to see details more easily visible for techs as I find myself having to hover over tons of little icons all the time.

Absoultely, not even a question. Though, as others have said, definately consider doing any tech tree updates simulaniously with it to minimize disruption.