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Should we do a lore pass on the tech tree?

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Our first vote of 2018 asks an important question: should we do a lore pass on the tech tree? 


Let's add some context: the tech tree went through numerous modifications and changes over the last year and some, and since the Early Access, because of gameplay needs we have added, tweaked, changed, moved things around... the current tech tree has a fair amount of techs that are completely disconnected from their unlocks. Here's an example:


One of these things is not like the others...


Applied Casimir Effect was a technology players in the first Endless Space loved to rush, as it allowed players to get out of their starting constellation to start exploring the rest of the galaxy. Due to our numerous changes, though, it now unlocks food improvements and specializations. If you're an experienced player, there's a good chance you don't read these things anymore. If you're a new player, though, that's bound to be confusing, and a little less immersing than what you're used to if you like to follow the universe in our games.


This is why we're asking you, our players, new and experienced: should we harmonize it? This might entail moving things around like certain unlocks, icons, or just swapping titles and descriptions in other instances. In any case, it might be a little different at first, and you could need some time to adjust, but we think the tech tree would definitely be better moving forward.


So what do you say? Should we do that lore pass?

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7 years ago
Jan 31, 2018, 7:08:44 PM

YUP! I'm all about a rearrange! Can I also vote for carrying over something from EL? 


Can we have two tiers of Titanium and Hyperium weapon/defence tech? One as a Tier 2 Tech and the higher level one remaining where the current Titanium/Hyperium weapons/defences are now at Tier 3? It's bizarre how far the player has to go into the military tech tree to use a resource that they can unlock at Tier 1

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7 years ago
Jan 31, 2018, 7:05:19 PM

Yes, the tech-tree needs some quality time by Mr. Spock. ;)


There are already differences in the tree regarding races. I wish to see more of such distinctive features which would tell the races more apart from each other.

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7 years ago
Jan 31, 2018, 6:41:14 PM

If you're a new player, though, that's bound to be confusing, and a little less immersing than what you're used to if you like to follow the universe in our games.

Can confirm. I'm a new player (well, not that new anymore) and I found the effort in writing the texts and their technologies extremely interesting, but unfortunately disconnected from the actual game implications.

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7 years ago
Jan 31, 2018, 6:29:46 PM

Absolutely fix the descriptions; for a lore-nut like me, it's really bothersome to see the descriptions for tech not match up with the actual technology it unlocks.

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7 years ago
Jan 31, 2018, 6:22:31 PM

OF COURSE you should. No, you shouldnt, you HAVE TO. Thats why i'm playing this game. Dont even think about redusing lore size in game!!!!

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7 years ago
Jan 31, 2018, 6:14:55 PM

We absolutely should do this. I think it will be good not only in terms of immersion (for new players) but also for sort of refreshening experience from the game (for experienced players) as u gonna sort of rediscover all these descriptions once they harmonized.

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7 years ago
Jan 31, 2018, 6:11:59 PM

Seconding Kuma and IceGremlin on this one, but probably will vote yes if there's no chance for that.

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7 years ago
Jan 31, 2018, 6:09:57 PM

Yes, BUT, I think it might be better to rework the tech tree first and be sure it won't move a lot again before so.

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7 years ago
Jan 31, 2018, 5:59:48 PM

Can we get a third option to wait? I want a lore pass, I really do, but I think the techs themselves still need reorganizing and tweaking, which will likely make for another lore pass after that.

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7 years ago
Jan 31, 2018, 5:59:49 PM

This is certainly worth doing, although it will be a shame to see some of the descriptions go as the 'voice' of all of them per faction are so nice. What I would like to see from this PoV is more unique flavour text for laws, techs and improvements.

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7 years ago
Feb 1, 2018, 4:36:01 PM

I though it was a priority for you guys !? Anyway, very good thing. 


Endless Space's lore is unique. Keep on taking care of it ! 


The Devil is always in the details.

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7 years ago
Feb 1, 2018, 5:54:08 PM

Yes... Have more and accurate lore - this is always a good thing. And while I know it would be quite a bit of work... I also hope you could give more personal touch to forementioned tech and laws for each Major Faction. I really like reading

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7 years ago
Feb 1, 2018, 5:43:24 PM

Voted yes - it's a nice to have, I know the devs want to do it, and I assume the guys rewriting this probably aren't the ones working on more code-related tasks.

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7 years ago
Feb 1, 2018, 5:30:27 PM

I believe this isn't really necessary right now, and that you should focus on more important things such as reworking the tech tree a little before changing the flavour text.

Obviously this would be a good addition, but not the priority in my opinion.

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7 years ago
Feb 1, 2018, 5:23:10 PM

I really don't know in what circumstances I would vote for No...

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7 years ago
Feb 1, 2018, 5:13:21 PM

I expect this process to be incredibly time consuming and fully expect there to be balancing issues before implementation, assuming techs will be swapped around as well as additional lore included. Overall, it's a great idea, improvements are always welcome whether it's lore or otherwise!

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7 years ago
Feb 1, 2018, 5:13:42 PM

Quite a strange question. You do see the problem yourselves. The question to ask is whether there should be chages affecting the balance or only the names and descriptions of techs should be be adjusted. I would be happy in both cases, provided that the balance is balanced :).

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