BlueTemplar wrote:
Lol, if Endless Space is "old", then what does that make games like Master of Orion 2 or Starcraft 1 ?

When they are old and still people remember them, they can be said to be classic.

Keep in mind that most players of any game never visit the forums for that game.

Sorry to be repeating myself on different threads but....

I've been having problems with loading saves and crashing after manual battles late game in vanilla.

Is the expansion likely to fix these or is that just wishful thinking?

Scheizer wrote:
Sorry to be repeating myself on different threads but....

I've been having problems with loading saves and crashing after manual battles late game in vanilla.

Is the expansion likely to fix these or is that just wishful thinking?

Seem like a tech issue, but well, I didn't get those problems with expansion so far.

However, since you mention 'late game', it might have something to do with memory issues, which I doubt is better with expansion.

If it is really a memory issue, just close every other program besides the game (and steam), then check if it crashes.

Monthar wrote:
Keep in mind that most players of any game never visit the forums for that game.

I know and from these steam statistics, this game does seem to have a lot of players playing (between 400 and 900 every hour), for a game that's almost 2 years old.

http://steamcharts.com/app/208140



I was just wondering if it justified another dlc, but maybe that makes the game sell a couple more copies.

Yeah, some people are even still buying that old game, only to find out that it still doesn't work properly even after all this time.

Your game only crashes in manual battles, right? So you can just do automated battles. I never do manual battles late game, because they take so much time.

Scheizer wrote:
Yeah, some people are even still buying that old game, only to find out that it still doesn't work properly even after all this time.

I'm confused, what old game are we talking about?

Endless Space, published in 2012. It's slowly growing old, but still has many players playing.

Lol, if Endless Space is "old", then what does that make games like Master of Orion 2 or Starcraft 1 ?

BlueTemplar wrote:
Lol, if Endless Space is "old", then what does that make games like Master of Orion 2 or Starcraft 1 ?

i believe the correct term in the English language would be older, or perhaps ancient, or before the time of the dinosaurs and electricity.

Are there enough players playing the game to justify a new dlc?

Nebur_Wolf wrote:
Your game only crashes in manual battles, right? So you can just do automated battles. I never do manual battles late game, because they take so much time.

I know you're only tring to help but that doesn't really answer my question about whether or not the expansion would fix the problem. I AM playing without watching the manual battles but, and I know it sounds picky, but I don't know what my end of tech lasers look like because I've never watched a manual battle past go 180 odd? That may seem unimportant, and, agreed, I don't want to watch ALL of the battles but just one every so often would be nice (without the hastle of having to save the game, crash, reload, etc). I figure that when they made the game part of the idea was that you could watch the battles that they'd gone to all the effort of programming

I posted a tech thread ages ago but no resolution yet.

Would like to get the expansion but not if the same problem will occur

Scheizer wrote:
I know you're only tring to help but that doesn't really answer my question about whether or not the expansion would fix the problem. I AM playing without watching the manual battles but, and I know it sounds picky, but I don't know what my end of tech lasers look like because I've never watched a manual battle past go 180 odd? That may seem unimportant, and, agreed, I don't want to watch ALL of the battles but just one every so often would be nice (without the hastle of having to save the game, crash, reload, etc). I figure that when they made the game part of the idea was that you could watch the battles that they'd gone to all the effort of programming

I posted a tech thread ages ago but no resolution yet.

Would like to get the expansion but not if the same problem will occur

I agree with anomalacaris that the expansion probably doesn't fix the memory problem. I think the problem is that it's a 32 bit game and it's running out of its paltry 2 gigs of memory. It doesn't matter if you have more memory installed. 32 bit can only do so much.



As a group of gamers, we found the 2 gig limit to be a problem in Galactic Civilizations 2, so we used the "Large Address Aware" app to boost the memory capability to 3 gigs. That might not equal what a 64 bit computer can do, but it's a 50% increase in available memory allocation.



Here's some information on it from the Tech Power Up forums. The app can be downloaded from the OP towards the bottom of the post (under attached files). Hopefully, Endless Space will be able to benefit from it.



http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/

Mumrah!!!! Now that's what I'm talkin about. Some progress. Tech guys have been sat on my files for a week and no reply yet, so this is the most promising development yet

(Even if they'd have just admitted it's a memory issue, or informed me that the expansion wouldn't fix it then it would have been appreciated, so thanks for doing it now).

I checked that site out and i'll give it a go. Do i just download it and install? Should I back up anything 1st (paranoia)?

My latest campaign crashes on manual battle at turn 184, just as it starts to get interesting, and I have 16 gig o RAM

Scheizer wrote:
Mumrah!!!! Now that's what I'm talkin about. Some progress. Tech guys have been sat on my files for a week and no reply yet, so this is the most promising development yet

(Even if they'd have just admitted it's a memory issue, or informed me that the expansion wouldn't fix it then it would have been appreciated, so thanks for doing it now).

I checked that site out and i'll give it a go. Do i just download it and install? Should I back up anything 1st (paranoia)?

My latest campaign crashes on manual battle at turn 184, just as it starts to get interesting, and I have 16 gig o RAM

I would definitely do a system backup before installing any app and this one is no exception. It claims to work on Windows 7, but I haven't personally tried it on 7. I used it on XP back in the day.



It's not just an install and go thing. In the OP's "spoilers", there are instructions on how to use it in Win 7. With that forum, the instructions promptly hide themselves when you click the toggle, but if you click the header afterwards, it'll show back up. You'll need to point the app to the Endless Space .exe so it can be large address aware.



I hope it helps.

K I did all of that without any gaffes, but the ES exe already showed up as originally 'true', which i assume means it was already Large Address Aware as i didn't have to change anything. Nonetheless, I have started a new campaign so I'll let you know my progress in a few days. Thanks again for the suggestion

I don't mean to be insulting with this suggestion because it's a long shot. However, I used to work on a Help Desk, and sometimes this was the issue...



How often do you restart or turn off your computer? If the answer is rarely, that could be the problem. A restart let's the computer regain its resources and memory that slowly get eaten away over time.



Assuming you do turn off or restart your computer every few days, please ignore this post!

3vilTwin wrote:
I would definitely do a system backup before installing any app and this one is no exception. It claims to work on Windows 7, but I haven't personally tried it on 7. I used it on XP back in the day.

Scheizer wrote:
K I did all of that without any gaffes, but the ES exe already showed up as originally 'true', which i assume means it was already Large Address Aware as i didn't have to change anything.

I was under the impression that all versions of Winodws beyond XP came with physical address extension technology already loaded?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7



but perhaps I am just misreading this chart and need to install that app myself

You might be right, Stealth_Hawk. I used the app under XP, but that was some time ago. Hopefully, it'll make a difference for Scheizer. If it doesn't we'll still have some data to go on and can continue the quest from there.



I don't have the crashing problem, but I'm using Vista 64 Business on my gaming machine. I doubt that there are more than a handful of others with that OS.

coyote303 wrote:
I don't mean to be insulting with this suggestion because it's a long shot. However, I used to work on a Help Desk, and sometimes this was the issue...



How often do you restart or turn off your computer? If the answer is rarely, that could be the problem. A restart let's the computer regain its resources and memory that slowly get eaten away over time.



Assuming you do turn off or restart your computer every few days, please ignore this post!

It gets turned off daily so that shouldn't be an issue, but i appreciate the lateral thinking.

It's a new system with a dozen games installed and some tunes. I just use it for gaming so it's relatively clean and clear - 800gb spare in 2nd drive etc.

I try not to install extra programmes that might cause any kind of conflict, hence my paranoia, which is why I'm so surprised that:

A. ES causes CTD after a manual battle (so that's UPON returning to the campaign map)

and B. that there isn't an obvious cause of the problem or an easy remedy.

I got right let down by Rome 2, sulked a lot, then bought ES, which I like enough to get the expansion if only I could find a ******* solution to my problem

I'll start a new thread where we can post our test results. Hopefully, we can pool our resources and come up with a workaround.

Some guy using big ships almost survived my onslaught. He outteched me to a point where I could barely do 10% of his ships in damage on his main fleet, and lost all ships in process. However, he could only fight one of my fleets a turn (This is the real weakness), so I bogged it down in a system with over 100 cheap ships while i sent rest to conquer all his other systems. In all I think next time I should change my firing pattern and focus on a single ship rather than spreading fire. I'll see how that works.

I'm playing it and have no significant complaints so far.. ships are not useless especially not in the late game.

However I would like to hear about Endless space 2

The A.I empires do not know how to use troop ships.Makes the game pretty easy to blitz them while they are stuck on your fortified world you can upgrade on the fly.

I just got the game (Gold edition) and am on my first "normal" Disharmony game. I've only played Disharmony and am still new to ES. Even so, I'll put my vote in for "IT ROCKS", as said above.



So, there's an Endless Space 2 coming out? I'm very interested.

i personally like giant mega-ships with 60+ long range beams, they do a lot of damage.

3vilTwin wrote:
So, there's an Endless Space 2 coming out? I'm very interested.

Not any time soon. They're working on two other games right now: Dungeon of the Endless and Endless Legend. It'll be a long time before we see a sequel.

Kyronex wrote:
Not any time soon. They're working on two other games right now: Dungeon of the Endless and Endless Legend. It'll be a long time before we see a sequel.

Haha. I guess I took it hook, line and sinker. It's just as well though. The game will be wasting a lot of hours as it is. The wife is so pleased.

JE66 wrote:
I played the heck out of the vanilla (over 200 hours) and was excited by the disharmony expansion. However, when it was released there was a lot of angst about changes that made large ships worthless compared to smaller ones because of various modular limits of the same benefit with a greater modular space per class cost, etc. I have stayed away for a few months, but my heart pulls me back to see if this promising game fixed its issues and is on sound footing again.



I was curious if the expansion was now ready for prime time. It alarms me that the forums seem pretty slow. So I am hesitant that only the "faithful" remain who will just say "YES!, IT ROCKS"



However, I am willing to ask and see what happens as I love this genre and have always wanted this game to succeed.

IMO it's completely worth the price if it's on steam sale (it was $5 recently). There are many upgrades and many changes such that the game really does feel different. I think it's worth it even at full price as long as you have friends to play with.

i personally think disharmony is good to buy even if you are just playing single player. it gives a lot more purpose to the giant ships than there was previously. especially giant ships crammed with invasion modules. by mid to late game as harmony i once had around 20000-30000 invasion points.

In vanilla I used to use Lasers all the time. Now I use long range kinetics all the time....



EDIT: Also, dreadnoughts seem a lot more powerful now.... I guess it's a hull weakness thing.

masotime wrote:
In vanilla I used to use Lasers all the time. Now I use long range kinetics all the time....



EDIT: Also, dreadnoughts seem a lot more powerful now.... I guess it's a hull weakness thing.

In vanilla i used all 3 weapon times now almost only Kinetics execpt for the early game. (imo there was more variability in the Vanilla in terms of weapons as it is yet depsite those long,middle,shortrange thing)



Dreadnoughts imo are even more useless in Disharmony imo cause of the % based Tonnage useage many modules does now apply.





Its still worth the money and the improvments in other sections are great.

I played the heck out of the vanilla (over 200 hours) and was excited by the disharmony expansion. However, when it was released there was a lot of angst about changes that made large ships worthless compared to smaller ones because of various modular limits of the same benefit with a greater modular space per class cost, etc. I have stayed away for a few months, but my heart pulls me back to see if this promising game fixed its issues and is on sound footing again.



I was curious if the expansion was now ready for prime time. It alarms me that the forums seem pretty slow. So I am hesitant that only the "faithful" remain who will just say "YES!, IT ROCKS"



However, I am willing to ask and see what happens as I love this genre and have always wanted this game to succeed.

i like my dreadnaughs to be fully outfitted. that means the science and military tech trees completed with so much tonnage. i put on a lot of flak because people keep trying to kill them with missiles. the rest is some bombers, fighters, and long range beams with some melee kinetics. add quite a few command points and a level 20+ hero and its almost unstoppable.

I like the Harmoney's affliation, I chose it and use the human looking ships, i enjoy the idea of not having to worry about happyness and only have to worrie about disharmony from dust but once you get rid of that problem your set, also if any one that is not harmony takes your planet that you purified it becomes useless for anything but food, sciance or production as all dust is converted into them instead of being used.

the only problem i have with harmony is that they have to choose either food or science at the beginning and those first turns are always hard for me. also the trait hellgourds is a negative anomaly trait (-2) that gives more food at a cost of -30 approval. for harmony it is really good, and quite overpowered for custom races. just my thoughts.

Actually that anomaly is blocked by harmony affinity. You could still possibly get it from unlucky colonists... but not confirmed.

really? wow i thought they could have it. never mind. thanks for the information.

Astax wrote:
Actually that anomaly is blocked by harmony affinity. You could still possibly get it from unlucky colonists... but not confirmed.

according to wiki:

Unlucky Colonists selects a random anomaly from the following list: Hostile Fauna, Swamp World, Seismic Activity, Long Season, Meteor Strikes, High Gravity.

Thus far most don't hurt for Harmony, mostly because they don't care about .

Hostile Fauna: -

Swamp World: -,+,-

Seismic Activity: -,-,+

Long Season: -,-,-

Meteor Strikes: -,+,-

High gravity: -,-pop



Long Season and High gravity are only ones actually bad, and not much

I say Swamp, Seismic and Meteors are actually good, even before you can fix them.

i checked and hellgourds are the only one blocked for harmony. thanks for the correction.

Is there any anouncment that there will be another addon or atleast some dlcs?

i don't think they announced anything but i hope they would at least make a second free dlc for disharmony