I think he means in terms of power generator, defense strength, weapons yields, that sort of thing.

Without weapons that can destroy entire planets or even stars, it probably is not that powerfull in comparison to other Sci-Fi-Universes.

one of the last tier techs involves shooting giant projectiles through a planet's core, thats scary. also, they never design super weapons right in other sci fi universes. it only took a fighter to kill basically both death stars. and endless space has fighters.

If you read the tech the theme is far more advanced that said mentioned lore.Dust also allows to build a million ship armada in a year.

Such comparisons are hard to do. Very many variables.

It depends on what parties would be involved (are all of Endless Space factions working in unision?)? What is their advancement level?



Galactic Empire of the Star Wars universe was very powerful due to its gargantuan fleets, decent superweapons and supernatural forces backing it up. Yet it was toppled by a bunch of rag-tag rebels that had nothing in their favour but story narrative.

WH40k Imperium of Man would probably roflroll over anything that most SF universes could throw at it, only if it could get past its stagnation and get its awesome leader back (+++without Him we are nothing+++).

Mass Effect's Reapers seem pretty powerful, nigh unstoppable, except for their Achilles' heel (which is bullshit).



Star Trek, BSG and Halo portray something more akin to a regional conflicts. The powers involved aren't that big in comparison to other mentioned universes.







[amIallowedtosay'bullshit'here?]

The problem is that ES starts with like fusion powered space ships using interstellar strings and conventional weapons, and ends with the weaponization of entropy and command of wormholes to join any two in their empires together.

just imagine a superfleet of cravers, they control hundreds of planets churning out thousands of ships per year, will they be able to match all of thethreats from other sci fi universes??

So I have been thinking; about how powerful do you think the Endless Space universe is compared to others?



For example: How powerful is the Endless Space universe as compared to say: Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5, BSG, Mass Effect, Halo, or any other science fiction universes?





Sorry if this seems off topic but I have been wondering this for a while.

Igncom1 wrote:
The problem is that ES starts with like fusion powered space ships using interstellar strings and conventional weapons, and ends with the weaponization of entropy and command of wormholes to join any two in their empires together.

Yeah.



Endless space isn't so much a universe as it is a "what if."



If we take starting tech we're basically using engines on a hunk of steel with some cannons attached.



By mid game we've got fast than light engines with giant laser cannons attached.



By end game we've got instant travel engines that merely detach your matter.

I wouldn't call Endless Space a "what if" universe. The main setback it has in such a comparison is that, well, it hasn't been around nearly as long as the universes it is being compared to. It hadn't had time to really get it's lore, the intricacies of the universe, really out there. If you go digging you can find it, but, it's harder to get a picture of the universe than you can of Warhammer 40k, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc.



I'd rate them like this:



1. Warhammer 40k

2. Star Wars

3. Mass Effect

4. Endless Space

5. Star Trek



These are the only sci-fi universes I feel I know enough about to make a good call on.



My reasoning is that for 40k, the Imperium of Man alone could likely fight and at least hold it's own against the combined races/factions of any of the other universes. I mean, it's what they're doing right now basically. Add in the rest of the 40k universe and it's just game over for any other universe in my opinion. Star Wars comes next, simply because they have doomsday tech like the Death Star, Eclipse-class Star Destroyers, Sun Crusher missiles, Dath Nihilus, Yo'gand's Core...Plus, aside from 40k, I don't think any other universe has much of an answer for the amount of Force users.



Mass Effect might be able to, with biotics, but I don't believe there are many biotics as there are Force users. Or ones powerful enough to make a difference...When I see a biotic pull a ship like the Destiny Ancension out of orbit and crash into the planet, then I'll reconsider. And while the Reapers are, in essence, doomsday material, and there are a lot of them...I think Star Wars vessels and space stations are much more powerful and can handle them. Endless Space is close behind Mass Effect, only losing out because of the Reapers. Heroes enhanced with Dust could very well be similar to biotics, or even Force users, but...we just don't know. It was a really rough call between these two, to be honest. If we ever see more of the Endless Space universe, I'll re-evaluate this.



Star Trek is last simply because, well...To be honest, I'm least familiar with it. And the majority of their problem solving seems to be diplomatic in nature. Sure, their ships can hold up well in a fight in their own universe, but, I think the others simply have them outclassed and outgunned. I don't think they have as much doomsday tech as the the others, either. This is all just my opinion, of course, but that's how I would rank them.

FinalStrigon wrote:


I'd rate them like this:



1. Warhammer 40k

2. Star Wars

3. Mass Effect

4. Endless Space

5. Star Trek

This reminded me of one episode of "battle of the nerds" or something like that. They had battle between Star Wars and Star Trek. I'm pretty sure trek was the one that won

Well it depends on the lore you use.



The older star trek lore meant that star wars war far superior in every way, newer ST lore however brings them into their own with hyper long ranged warfair.



Non of it makes any scientific sense as it is all a bunch of hand waving.

Igncom1 wrote:
Well it depends on the lore you use.



The older star trek lore meant that star wars war far superior in every way, newer ST lore however brings them into their own with hyper long ranged warfair.



Non of it makes any scientific sense as it is all a bunch of hand waving.

I'd say in most cases it depend of the person doing the comparison. The battle between Star Trek and Star Wars is ongoing one and I don't think fans of either universe are close to waving white flag.

Wredniak2003 wrote:
I'd say in most cases it depend of the person doing the comparison. The battle between Star Trek and Star Wars is ongoing one and I don't think fans of either universe are close to waving white flag.

True, as the technology is hard to compare.



Not to mention people seem to fail when they mention whether the sides are blood lusted, because the federation sure as hell won't use it's super anti-Borg tech, because it's not what the entire faction stands for, it's the exact opposite.

The Flood > Imperium