[Discussion] Retreat Card

GozerTC

Old

16 300g2g pts

12 years ago

May 9, 2012, 2:29:26 PM

/Agree

Retreat with "cut off" counter card. And/or a hero dust cost version.

MODVieuxChat

Chameleon

Truth is a chameleon. Herbert

MODVieuxChat

Chameleon

25 400g2g pts

12 years ago

May 9, 2012, 2:33:37 PM

If the AI uses the retreat card too often, then create a "counter" card.

x239marine

Newcomer

x239marine

Newcomer

12 years ago

May 9, 2012, 3:10:30 PM

yes, a technology to disable engines or such so as to stop retreat would allow this card to remain balanced

jetkar

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jetkar

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12 900g2g pts

12 years ago

May 9, 2012, 4:25:21 PM

DJIllusion wrote:
Hi,

This bugged me when I first played (and still does really).

But could we have a 'Retreat / Emergency' retreat card. If they take you by surprise then you want to get out of there not just sit and get blown up...

Dan

Added and linked here. With related discussion thread here where we can discuss it further

Mansen

Enthusiast

Mansen

Enthusiast

19 200g2g pts

12 years ago

May 9, 2012, 7:59:04 PM

Yeah a retreat card that takes the entire "phase" to charge up would be nice - with a counter of course.

Thatcher

Old Survivor

Thatcher

Old Survivor

6 500g2g pts

12 years ago

May 9, 2012, 8:59:14 PM

Some sort of retreat option would be nice, or give each individual fleet a running counter of potential options for defense/offense/retreat/evasion. Where for example if in my own home territory my fleets have a great opportunity for evasion and defense, and outside it would be dependent on the type of system/friendliness of system, etc.

Igncom1

Craver

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Igncom1

Craver

11 400g2g pts

12 years ago

May 9, 2012, 9:01:29 PM

if there will be a retreat card, i feel that you should have to wait till the second round before you can employ it, so that hunting fleets with specliseds long-range weapons could still inflict damage on fleeing ships, but without being effective in a drawn out battle.

Nickolaeris

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Nickolaeris

Newcomer

12 years ago

May 9, 2012, 9:19:07 PM

I agree, but I want to add a bit - to retreat fleet must have at least 1 unused movement point, which is used during retreat. This can work instead of (or in addition to) counter card - as enemy fleet won't be able to retreat every time you attack.

SuperLordPedro

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SuperLordPedro

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12 years ago

May 11, 2012, 3:54:18 PM

Was just thinking of this idea while I was playing today. A retreat card or an option in the battle initiation window would be nice. Especially when your level 1 scout meets 2 Pirates and there is no chance of winning.

MODNosferatiel

Informer

"God's in his heaven, all's right with the world." Nerv Motto, Neon Genesis Evangelion

MODNosferatiel

Informer

47 300g2g pts

12 years ago

May 12, 2012, 10:49:06 AM

Steph'nie wrote:

Retreat

We actually had to remove it for the Alpha. But it's there.

Thought I'd drop this quote, here.

victorcahat

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victorcahat

Newcomer

12 years ago

May 6, 2012, 12:06:08 AM

Hello,

The idea is not only good, it's also in my sense essential. But maybe only some races would have access to "kamikaze" option, while others could sacrifice units to leave the field with the rest of the fleet, and some tech (i.e. : better engines) allow you to outrun the ennemy. Battles should end more often than not with the ennemie's retreat, not utter destruction.

Danvil

Blue

Danvil

Blue

26 900g2g pts

12 years ago

May 5, 2012, 9:46:18 PM

I totally agree! There could be a malus for retreat, like random fleet move and some damage taken.

Zantinar

Remnant

Zantinar

Remnant

12 800g2g pts

12 years ago

May 5, 2012, 9:52:25 PM

Would definitely like to see this in the game.

BigMaz88

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BigMaz88

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12 years ago

May 5, 2012, 10:00:33 PM

definately agree on that one. kinda stinks when u know u cant win and just have to take the loss :/

SirNitram

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SirNitram

Newcomer

12 years ago

May 5, 2012, 10:05:55 PM

I for one do not really like the idea of a cheap card to run away without losses. Think about the AI playing it all the time!

It would make strange tactics available, such as sending a fast scout behind enemy lines and retreating everytime it is attacked.

But maybe something like thsi card could be introduced as a "Hero-card"? So you would have to pay dust for it, and maybe make it quite expensive?

So it is more about saving your hero than those pesky ships XD

Gordon

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Gordon

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200g2g pts

12 years ago

May 5, 2012, 10:10:27 PM

Would be usefull in dire times. Yes, please.

Volkain

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Volkain

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200g2g pts

12 years ago

May 5, 2012, 10:11:48 PM

Yea a retreat card is a good idea but there should also be a counter card like blockade also the retreat should not be instant so that they at least take some damage ...

Tikigod

Old Remnant

Tikigod

Old Remnant

22 400g2g pts

12 years ago

May 5, 2012, 10:12:26 PM

Well like any card there should be counters IMO.

So if there were a retreat card then it would belong to a certain category which itself would have a counter category.

This way retreat would be something of a last resort effort to try and not suffer total losses, but it's not a 100% guarantee.

Aerensiniac

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Aerensiniac

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12 years ago

May 5, 2012, 10:34:48 PM

Some sort of retreat option would be nice, even if its a card.

ergie

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ergie

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18 100g2g pts

12 years ago

May 5, 2012, 10:42:57 PM

Great

A card provided by an admiral, f.i.; or some kind of stealth tech; and of course a counter.