Mississippians Community Event

Octavion wrote:

To everyone who is skeptical about how doable this is, the community already has 63k stars on the event. It would take about 135k/day to ensure the 2M stars. We're already half way to that figure for today.

Yes, but keep in mind that the collection rate will not be uniform and that we're in the middle of peak hours.  User counts also vary depending on the day of the week.  Not saying that we definitely won't make it, but it's hard to arrive at a stars/hour rate for these events.

Octavion wrote:

Also, it's incredibly easy to cheese this one. Remember, using influence to build resource extractors and harbors in territories counts toward stars. Merchant cultures help reduce the influence cost, as well. Go wide, go merchant, and use that influence!

Which sort of highlights how much of a grind these timed events tend to be.

I love the idea of community challenges, I really really do, but asking for a two million goal is just insane. Humankind simply does not have the recurring players to fulfill such an immense task. I much prefer the individual goals for that exact reason, I don't need to rely on the roughly two thousand or so other people who play this game to all do their part and get the required ~1,000 stars each to reach the final reward. At least with individual tasks there's a chance to get the reward.

If the reward thresholds were lowered significantly then I would have absolutely no problem with community events, but as is it just leaves me feeling completely hopeless. With the last one we only missed out on an AI persona, but now we're probably going to miss out on a whole culture with all its unique gameplay because there just aren't enough people and there isn't enough time.

I hope really, really hope this culture is available somehow later. I'd even be happy paying for it, the Mississippians are a really cool culture that I have personal connection to because I live right next to a former settlement of theirs. It's just so sad that the time and effort put into developing this content will probably never be enjoyed because there's no chance we're reaching that two million goal.

Will there be another way to play the Event cultures? 
Will they be included in a DLC down the road ?
(2M Builders stars is stratospheric in the few hours of gameplay I'd be able to find) 

SpikedWallMan wrote:

To quickly summarize my thoughts:

Timed event = BAD

No arbitrary culture restrictions = GOOD

Reasonable goal = NOT SURE

We didn't even reach 1M era stars *of all types* during the Lunar New Year challenge so I'm a little skeptical that we'll hit 2M for only Builder stars.  However, the LNY challenge restricted everyone to only 3 cultures so I don't know whether restricting the eligible cultures or restricting the star type would slow progress more.  Guess we'll see.

https://steamcharts.com/app/1124300

Your reference to LNY event is very good point!

I'm afraid that 2M goal is impossible... :(

what Era is this culture?

I would say classical, but it's hard to say since they share a time frame with the Aztec.

Jacket-Eng wrote:

I much prefer this idea - I always struggled to get into the individual events which would deter me from playing the game (some form of FOMO I guess?) This seems much more in-line with the idea of 'Humankind' that we see in the intro video; that it's a collective effort to overcome challenges.

I also prefer this way of implementing challenges, if this month I don't have much time to play, I know my fellow humankind gamers will cover my back and I hope to be able to cover theirs when I have more time on my hands.

I personally don't like individualistic challenges with no way to re address them later

Sometimes I have a lot of time to play - sometimes I don't. Unfortunately, during this event, it will be one of my lower periods. Had you done it two weeks ago until now, I would have been pounding out those builder stars.

I much prefer this idea - I always struggled to get into the individual events which would deter me from playing the game (some form of FOMO I guess?) This seems much more in-line with the idea of 'Humankind' that we see in the intro video; that it's a collective effort to overcome challenges.

Don't suppose Stadia is included in this? 

benblond wrote:

Thighs wrote:

Ooh, unlockable cultures is a novel idea!

Unrelated, I'd love to see Malaysia join the game in one respect or another (I'm a history novice, so I may be unaware of significant existing cultural ties, mind).

Noted for Malaysia ;)

Very cool! Unfortunately I couldn't unlock the last Da Vinci challenge as I'd accidentally disqualified my last game from the science victory (I'd only enabled the space race victory by mistake). I'm happy that this challenge is community based though, I love massive team efforts like this. 

Also holy crap, someone from the Dev Team taking note of Malaysia! While Malaysia itself may be a long shot (though it'd be a pretty cool choice for a modern culture), I'd still love to see more Southeast Asian representation in the game as there's some great cultures that could be included.

No arbitrary culture restrictions = GOOD

Reasonable goal = NOT SURE

We didn't even reach 1M era stars *of all types* during the Lunar New Year challenge so I'm a little skeptical that we'll hit 2M for only Builder stars.  However, the LNY challenge restricted everyone to only 3 cultures so I don't know whether restricting the eligible cultures or restricting the star type would slow progress more.  Guess we'll see.

Thighs wrote:

Ooh, unlockable cultures is a novel idea!

Unrelated, I'd love to see Malaysia join the game in one respect or another (I'm a history novice, so I may be unaware of significant existing cultural ties, mind).

Noted for Malaysia ;)

達芬奇活動 真的沒有拿到,對我來說那段時間遊戲才剛剛購入,要達成真的沒有太多時間摸索

這個社團活動真的很好,我不需要每天都花大量的時間去玩,而是大家一起

throwing in my two cents, it's hard to work up the motivation to play a bunch of games to contribute builder stars so we can all unlock the new culture, when the mere news that a new culture might be added is making me wanna wait until the culture gets unlocked before i play. For games like Humankind and Civ, I get burned out pretty easy so if im gonna play a game im gonna wanna wait until i can play with the new stuff, rather than getting burned out on the game just before it comes out. Maybe if future events like this allowed players to play with the unlockable culture in a limited capacity during the event, and it only stays unlocked if the goals are achieved, then this event would feel more motivating. Maybe if after 1.5M builder stars we temporarily unlocked the Mississipians for the rest of the event, and then at 2M we get to keep it unlocked after the event ends?
That seems like the system I'd like best personally, but idk about others. As is, I do think I'll hop on to play a game before they unlock, since the Bolivar beta is out. That way it feels more like trying out the new beta, rather than doing a chore like it'd otherwise feel like :/

Daarkarrow wrote:

Sir_Bertran wrote:

With average peak players of 2000 per month in Steam we are required to earn 2 000 000 builder stars in two weeks.

That would be 1000 stars per one player. 

Or 71 stars per day.

With 18 stars maximum at one game, it is required to have 4 full games daily to achieve this unlocks.

C'mon! This is ridiculous. 

Individual unlock for 18 builder stars will be much more reasonable. 

Again, we have checked the data and the number, even if it look like "impossible" , it is more than doable to achieve ^^

Not so convinced after the Lunar New Year event tbh.

Why the sudden shift to a GaaS model?

Amateur question: I noticed in the game main menu, if you click on "extras", the "events" button is greyed out.  Is that because this is community event?  I wish I could track my individual contribution to the community goal...

OH MY GOD
THX that's actually a great way to release DLC's. 
Ok, i'll do my small part as I can. 

Lorco wrote:

Hargindel wrote:

Will there be another way to play the Event cultures?
Will they be included in a DLC down the road ?
(2M Builders stars is stratospheric in the few hours of gameplay I'd be able to find) 

it's a community challenge, everybody in the Community participates, and if the goal is achieved the culture will be Unlock Permenantly for All players, whether they participated or not.

or atleast that how the previous Community events worked, so you don't have to get 2M stars yourself, but the community as a whole.

I like this activity, but I can't see how many stars have been contributed, I lost my sense of accomplishment

Sir_Bertran wrote:

With average peak players of 2000 per month in Steam we are required to earn 2 000 000 builder stars in two weeks.

That would be 1000 stars per one player. 

Or 71 stars per day.

With 18 stars maximum at one game, it is required to have 4 full games daily to achieve this unlocks.

C'mon! This is ridiculous. 

Individual unlock for 18 builder stars will be much more reasonable. 

Again, we have checked the data and the number, even if it look like "impossible" , it is more than doable to achieve ^^

EvasiveEngineer wrote:

TheGimp wrote:

my game says "no events active"! i'm connected to g2g, how do i know if i'm in the event or how do i activate the event?

I see the same thing. Connected to G2G, the "event" button appears on the main UI but is disabled. (On the Bolivar Beta.) So I'm unsure if I'm contributing to the event or not.

The "event" on the menu is tide to the Individual challenges, that is the reason on why this event is not displayed there. I know it would be more convenient :(