In humankind i see civics which is very impressive because it include every element like religion freedom, slavery, etc.

The decision we will take in middle of game also effect ideology.

Ideology seems to be a diplomatic tool.

Share your views that how ideology can have additional effects or mechanic make game interesting.

There can be independent choice of player for ideology

Freedom: Unlocks group of civics with no choice and can be unlocked when we gain civics points. We will force to giveup civics like slavery, religions equality, etc. 

Communalism: It will also unlock civics with choice but this ideology only support one religion means you cannot slave the chosen religious group and forcely convert other religions.

Communist: It will also unlock more civics choice but this ideology you  cannot be  centric. You can do slavery in it.

Dictatorship: You will have special civics dedicated for dictator. You can unlock any civic except those which support freedom like free media, open market, etc.

Abhi2410 wrote:

...Communist: It will also unlock more civics choice but this ideology you  cannot be  centric. You can do slavery in it....  

Communism is acctually the opposite of slavery. It's the working class rising up to shake off the opression of the ruling class (which was under conditions that were almost slave like in some places). You have a period of proletarian dictatorship where You forcefully take the power and wealth from the former ruler class and divide out to the people. In that phase a strong state is part of the system to be able to balance against the former ruling class grabbing back power and protect the working class until a state of equality for all have been reached. Then the state apparatus is supposed to dismantle itself and all power go back to the people. Acctually transform into a form of direct democracy or collective rule. At least that is how it is supposed to work in theory. 

A utopian idea which has never in history managed to come past the phase of the proletarian dictatorship in reality. Since the ones that were supposed to balance out the former ruling class have themselves grabbed power and become the new ruling class and even dictators for life and such. Then it has failed as a result. Some may argue that some tribes in Amazon or some other rain forest in S/E Asia where a tribe share all is the only places were it exists and works on a small scale (but I'm pretty sure those tribes have no idea somone else might see them as communists, he he he), but it has not succeeded as a system and reached acctual communism in any larger society.

Never confuse what we have in North Korea, or had in former Soviet Union with having reached communism. It might have started with a revolution then a proletarian dictatorship, but then failed to be even that and has simply turned into a more generic dictatopship which in reality have more in common with fascism with a strong leader like father figure etc. Also in common with fascism is that they think they have the duty and right dominate weaker nations around them and put them under their control. Not to mention a one-party state. That is acctually the very defintion of Fascism. Definetly not Communism (how it is supposed to be in theory anyway). Just because someone calls something a name, doesn't make it so. One has to know what it is acctually supposed to be and how it's supposed to work.

There are also many forms of Socialims, Communism, Marxism, Marxism-Leninism etc. Some has even named what they had in former Soviet union "Stalinism".

 If we are to have such ideologies in Humankind (after the model you suggest) it is important that they are done correctly under the name they are called. Way too many makes the mistake and just bundled it all up and call it Communism (even things that have little to do with communism). Just as many say capitalism left and right without knowing what it acctually means. Not knowing the difference between planned economy vs market economy and that it's possible to have a mix of both etc. Same as many make the mistake of not knowing the difference between a representative democracy or direct democracy, or even the difference between the American style Democracy with a senate and a president (more based off the roman system) vs parliamentary democracy with a form of cabinet and a prime minister etc. Those were just a few examples. There are or have been plenty of other forms of democracy as well. On top of that there are forms of monarchies on top of many democracies, like in England, Norway, Sweden, Thailand etc. Some Monarchies have evolved from Constituional Monarchies to Parlamentarian Monarchies etc. In some democratic countries it is still The King that opens the parliament session each year.

I only mention these variants in this context of Humankind based off historical systems, as You brought it up. I have no interest in a political discussion outside of the boundaries of the game and the historical aspect of the game having such systems/ideologies, as such discussion online often degrades fast with name calling and whatnot. So let's keep it in relations to the game. :)

Abhi2410 wrote:

I am not trying to be political, i want to see how people want to see as diplomatic tool or have an impact on our civ like civ 5.

Changing ideology cause discontent in public.

I am talking in relation to game that how such mechanic can give more strategic look.

I understood that. Same here. My comment about not wanting to get into politics was more in general in case someone would think that I was trying to be political, or get triggered for some reason. Seen that way too many times online that people misunderstand each other and keyboard war breaks out, he he he !!! Especailly as soon as anything can be misunderstood as being political.

I wrote it all just since I think it's important to get things right.

I find it a bit annoying in movies for example when they make a WWII Movie then You see the tanks or vehicles in the movie models from the 50's or 60's. Or when they add cowboy hats in a medieval style game. I like things to be correct if going to pick them from real life or real history. Same with ideoligies. Since You had written "...Communist:.. ...You can do slavery in it..." I simply wanted to correct that. It would be more correct to have "forced labour" in it as that would fit with it at least during the proletarian dictatorship phase before it reaches the goal of acctually becoming real communism. Same as if they add socialsm it should be able to have a mix of planned economy and market economy at the same time. Or democracy being able to have different democracies like direct democracy or representative democracy. Monarchy being able to evolve from Constituional Monarchies to Parlamentarian Monarchies under a democratic form.

You asked for our opinions and that is mine when I saw Your ideas about communism as an ideology.

I just want things to be correct. It's why I so like when I saw Amplitude having added Ashigarus with Toappai Jingasas as the Japanese Arquebusiers. Amplitude knowing the difference and not just sticking an Arquebuse in the hands of some Samurai looking unit. I just adore small details like that. When they put so much care into details, dig into history and do their home work and get it completely right. It does alot for immersion, at least for me.

It's the same if they were to add these type ideoligies. It's important to get them all right. Not just slap a sticker on something and call it a name and then the effects being all wrong for that ideology. especailly sincve there are so many misconcenptions out there about various ideologies and systems. I often see peope, just throw labels around without acctually knowing what they are talking about. Not knowing what the various ideologies and even economical systems accctually means and stands for. Mixing them all up.

I also realize all this would take a tremendous job, time and effort to implement and dig into to get it all correct in so much detail. I think that it's all way out of scope for Humankind. At least this first game, if we even want it to be release in 2021 and not like 2023. :)