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New Modern Era. What cultures can you add?

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4 years ago
Jan 2, 2021, 5:02:00 PM

This idea prompted me to post about the illogical placement of Russians in the Industrial Era, although it gained its fame as an expansionist earlier. Therefore, I propose to create a new era between the Early Modern Ere and Industrial Era. Let it be just the Modern Era, which will cover the period from 1650 to 1800. Where to get cultures for it? Below I propose a scheme to implement this by taking cultures from neighboring eras and patching "holes" with new cultures.



Early Modern Era (1500-1650)

-   Dutch

+ Incas


Modern Era (1650-1800)

+ Swedes

+ Dutch

+  Russian

+  Prussians 

+  Austrians

Qing dynasty

+ Alaouite dynasty

+ Safavid dynasty

+ ??? 



Industrial Era (1800-???)

-      Russian

-      Austrians

+     Belgians

+     USA

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4 years ago
Jan 2, 2021, 9:36:55 PM

I bring to your attention an approximate specialization of the cultures of the New Age. If you have any comments or suggestions - write.




Swedes (scientist)


Dutch (merchant)


Russian (expansionist)


Prussians (militarists)


Austrians (aesthetes)


Qing (aesthetes)


Alawites (merchant)


Safavids (builder)


Navajo (agrarian)



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4 years ago
Jan 3, 2021, 3:57:39 PM

The Dutch in Early Modern Era would more logically replace other traders such as Songhay or Majapahit. And Maori can become militarists in Modern Era.

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Jan 5, 2021, 11:30:06 PM

Without naming names, the Advanced Modern Era would most likely be defined by the nation's/empire's government type.Democracies, Republics, Monarchies, Theocracies, Dictatorships, Military Juntas, etc.  The trouble is, during this era there are several noteworthy nations/empires with near identical orientations.

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Jan 6, 2021, 12:51:40 AM
CaptainPatch wrote:

Without naming names, the Advanced Modern Era would most likely be defined by the nation's/empire's government type.Democracies, Republics, Monarchies, Theocracies, Dictatorships, Military Juntas, etc.  The trouble is, during this era there are several noteworthy nations/empires with near identical orientations.

HK culture (Dutch, Teuton, Ming) is completely separate from civics.

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Jan 6, 2021, 3:46:53 AM
Again, all the expansionist stuff of Russia takes place during this games Industrial Era, which covers 1700-1918. I very much doubt that the devs are going to add another 10 cultures before release. Also, Americans and Swedes will be for Contemporary Era
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Jan 6, 2021, 10:09:33 AM
FlamingKetchup wrote:
Again, all the expansionist stuff of Russia takes place during this games Industrial Era, which covers 1700-1918. I very much doubt that the devs are going to add another 10 cultures before release. Also, Americans and Swedes will be for Contemporary Era

In fact, I also doubt that they will add. However, these ideas can be used for future extensions.

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Jan 6, 2021, 10:17:51 AM


I developed these ideas because I believed that the 18th century period was ignored. For me, the Early Modern Era is associated with the Thirty Years' War (16th-17th centuries), and the Industrial Era with the 19th century and the Franco-Prussian War. But the time of the Seven Years' War and the rapid expansion of the Russian Empire remained "overboard".

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4 years ago
Jan 6, 2021, 9:24:21 PM
FlamingKetchup wrote:

The culture card art depicts Catherine the Great, and does the Expansionist affinity not represent the 18th century expansion of RUssia?

Yes, the card depicts Catherine the Great. However, the culture itself is in the Industrial Age. Industrialization in history occurs in the second half of the 18th century, and

but the first results are noticeable from the 1830s. At the same time, the Early Modern Age depicts the end of the Middle Ages and the beginning of the New Age and covers about 1450-1650. And there is a void that can be filled with cultures of 1650-1800, which perfectly fits the Russian Empire of Peter the Great and Catherine the Great.

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Feb 2, 2021, 6:45:27 PM

Industrialization actually occurred earlier than the mid 1800s. In Russia, industrialization is generally considered to have begun under Peter the Great. The middle of the 1700s saw Russian industrialization capacity increased under Catherine the Great, specifically with metallurgy and textiles. Even if this is considered a bit early, the traditional start date for the Industrial Revolution is in 1760, taking place until about 1840. The Industrial Age in this game appears to last from the early to mid 18th century to the early 20th century, which is fairly accurate.


For the Early Modern Era they could probably add Muscovy/the early Russian tsardom. Then in the middle ages we could even get the Kievan Rus. This is more of Imperial Russia, which was expansive during this time period. An early modern Russia could also be considered expansionist, I agree. But there is nothing wrong with where they have placed Russia. And they can add another Russia later, just like we are presuming two Japans, and already have confirmed two Persian cultures (Achamenid in classical, Qajar in Industrial).

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Feb 2, 2021, 6:59:12 PM
Jkchart писал:

Фактически индустриализация произошла до середины 1800-х годов. Считается, что в России индустриализация началась еще при Петре Великом. В середине 1700-х годов при Екатерине Великой возможности индустриализации России увеличились, особенно в области металлургии и текстиля. Даже если это считается слишком ранним, традиционная дата начала промышленной революции - 1760 год, которая будет происходить примерно до 1840 года. Индустриальный век в этой игре, кажется, длится с начала-середины 18-го века до начала 20-го века, что довольно точно.


Для раннего Нового времени они, вероятно, могли бы добавить Московию / раннее русское царство. Тогда в средние века мы могли получить даже Киевскую Русь. Это скорее имперская Россия, которая в то время была обширной. Я согласен с тем, что раннюю современную Россию тоже можно было считать экспансионистской. Но нет ничего плохого в том, куда они поместили Россию. И они могут добавить еще одну Россию позже, точно так же, как мы предполагаем два японца и уже подтвердили две персидские культуры (Ахаменид в классической, Каджар в индустриальной).

Here I imagined what Muscovy might look like in Humankind.

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/forums/179-creations/threads/36361-fanmade-culture-cards-fiesta?page=2#post-311171

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