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I will probably not post any more math about the game

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3 years ago
Sep 25, 2021, 1:17:29 AM

I have been told that math and graphs is not useful for the average player. Instead things such as tutorials are what players are looking for. Right now I dont know how to make tutorials but I hope I can learn how.

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3 years ago
Sep 25, 2021, 4:38:50 AM

You could try to figure out the Civic unlock conditions instead - there's a lot of interest in that 

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3 years ago
Sep 25, 2021, 5:46:28 AM

Who cares if the graphs are not useful for "average players". First, we don't know. Second, an average player can become an experienced player. Secondly, we don't do a job that the average player. Some information is of interest only to a fraction of the players, and that's normal.


The information, the tendencies that you will bring to light, will be useful for a lot of players and maybe for the devs.

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3 years ago
Sep 25, 2021, 7:20:48 AM

Hi Goodluck!


I appreciate your work! Could you enlighten me about this:

what is the exact condition of triggering the "opressing my people" grievance? I understand how to convert a territory to my sphere of infulence. I did it with several foreign territory, and very rare ocassion i got this grievance. 

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3 years ago
Sep 25, 2021, 10:21:14 AM
Waterloo wrote:

Hi Goodluck!


I appreciate your work! Could you enlighten me about this:

what is the exact condition of triggering the "opressing my people" grievance? I understand how to convert a territory to my sphere of infulence. I did it with several foreign territory, and very rare ocassion i got this grievance. 

I don't know what trigger it, I wonder that myself.

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3 years ago
Sep 25, 2021, 12:03:17 PM
Jojo_Fr wrote:

Who cares if the graphs are not useful for "average players". First, we don't know. Second, an average player can become an experienced player. Secondly, we don't do a job that the average player. Some information is of interest only to a fraction of the players, and that's normal.


The information, the tendencies that you will bring to light, will be useful for a lot of players and maybe for the devs.

The point is to help people and I guess the newer players are the ones that need help the most and thus it make sense to focus on stuff that would help them.

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3 years ago
Sep 25, 2021, 9:52:41 PM

So now is the question, how do you make a tutorial?

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3 years ago
Sep 26, 2021, 3:05:35 PM

Im sorry but I think I will leave and never to return.

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3 years ago
Sep 26, 2021, 8:29:05 PM
Goodluck wrote:

Im sorry but I think I will leave and never to return.

Hi there, hope you still fine and still here. May I ask what kind of math around the game you were posting? Haven't seen it so far and it sounds interesting. No beginner but no pro as well. Thanks.

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3 years ago
Sep 26, 2021, 10:30:34 PM
Maybe the math doesn't interest average players but it will show us the balance of the mechanics. We'll know if things are unbalanced and we can try to figure out the solution.

When some mechanics are unbalanced, average players may not be able to understand the math behind it, but they will feel something is not right.
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3 years ago
Sep 26, 2021, 10:43:19 PM
Valmighty wrote:
Maybe the math doesn't interest average players but it will show us the balance of the mechanics. We'll know if things are unbalanced and we can try to figure out the solution.

When some mechanics are unbalanced, average players may not be able to understand the math behind it, but they will feel something is not right.

I'm not sure if the math I post show much about the balance, I don't play the game much so I can't tell too much about the overall balance of the game.

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3 years ago
Sep 28, 2021, 1:22:27 PM

Maybe I should start doing something else such as making cultures?


Video games are quite boring to me, stuff like doing math about the games or discussing the games tend to be more fun than playing them for some unknown reason.

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3 years ago
Sep 28, 2021, 4:25:42 PM
Goodluck wrote:

Maybe I should start doing something else such as making cultures?


Video games are quite boring to me, stuff like doing math about the games or discussing the games tend to be more fun than playing them for some unknown reason.

Yep that's pretty much what I do. I am having fun with a few games right now; experimenting with weaker options and off-color strategies in Humankind is still entertaining me. But I've always mostly enjoyed modding EL and ES2 to my liking, though I never really uploaded my mods.


I usually go through a cycle of extreme interest in a game, thinking about all the missed opportunities in development and gameplay, modding it, realizing that the modding tools can't accommodate all of my ideas, and then getting bored and moving on to something else. I guess the lack of modding tools has kept me interested in talking about the game.


I've come up with a culture that I'd like to post, but I wanted to make art for it in the style of Humankind and my art skills really need some improvement. Emulating Amplitude's art is hard, as they have some really good artists on board, props to them. It's so loose and painterly, every brush stroke is so efficient.

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3 years ago
Sep 29, 2021, 10:34:24 PM

I don't know, I ask people what they want to see and get very few if any responses, I feel I should just leave as nobody seems to care except after I post stuff. So if nobody care what I do, why should I do anything at all?


I hope I have not caused any problems for the developers with my posts.

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3 years ago
Sep 30, 2021, 12:59:34 AM

So I think I will say good bye for now, dont know if I will return or not.

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3 years ago
Sep 30, 2021, 5:31:31 PM
paxis76 wrote:

@Goodluck I am waiting for your stuff. Don't stop doing your good job, please.

@paxis76 What stuff are you waiting for?

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3 years ago
Sep 30, 2021, 7:01:01 PM

There are many open questions like:

  1. influence cost for placing a new outpost
  2. when civics trigger
  3. more information about spreading of culture - trade routes influence - roads
  4. better explanation of dyplomacy
  5. Cost of districts (my experience is different from e.g. wiki)
  6. When to build - Infrastructures vs districts (you can use my table with all the infrastructures)
I think there is enought tasks for a lot of days or months? :)

For my understandig, do you use only the game itself or you are searching for information also in the game files?


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3 years ago
Sep 30, 2021, 7:12:50 PM
paxis76 wrote:
For my understandig, do you use only the game itself or you are searching for information also in the game files?

I'm only using the game.

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