[RELEASED] community bug fix / balance mod

Zazen

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12 years ago

Aug 21, 2012, 11:23:22 PM

I still can't get that fixed ship template file due to forum. Did you already update the main mod as a whole to have the fixed version built in or does it have the buggy version?

davea

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davea

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12 years ago

Aug 21, 2012, 11:40:28 PM

I have not yet updated the main mod. Most people are able to download forum attachments by using the instructions I gave here:

/#/endless-space/forum/37-modding/thread/15801-released-community-bug-fix-balance-mod

Zazen

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Zazen

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12 years ago

Aug 21, 2012, 11:56:37 PM

Hey Dave. I finally got the shiptemplate thingy to load using Firefox. Do you think the AI will retr-actively update its' ships mid game or would I have to start over for it to upgrade and whatnot?

Plutoman

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Plutoman

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12 years ago

Aug 22, 2012, 12:34:34 AM

Interesting. Combined with the newest patch, this and the AI modifications are making the game significantly more difficult. For the first time (relative: I hadn't played with the last two patches) I've been outpaced by the AI's score-wise (on Endless).

Makes the game better; I prefer to fight from the bottom than wallow at the top relaxing. I can manage to the extreme, optimize, etc (though I usually do it with a bit of RP-elements, I can design a race to my specifications, style, as I feel my race should be, and not feel guilty, for example) without dominating the game now.

Though I did modify the trade bonus to a 1x dust for science, as I felt the .5x was a bit extreme. Half seemed suitably appropriate without dropping to a quarter of the original value.

Gotta restrain my urges here. I've modded more than my fair share of Skyrim (ASIS, Realistic Lighting, lots of miscellaneous stuff), and I need to keep from doing more on this game.. My classes would suffer. <_<

davea

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davea

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12 years ago

Aug 22, 2012, 12:36:19 AM

Zazen wrote:
Hey Dave. I finally got the shiptemplate thingy to load using Firefox. Do you think the AI will retr-actively update its' ships mid game or would I have to start over for it to upgrade and whatnot?

It is possible, but more likely that you will get weird results. I recommend when you change mod versions, you should start a new game.

malal

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malal

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12 years ago

Aug 22, 2012, 7:21:09 PM

Love this mode. Thanks a lot mate

Ail

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12 years ago

Aug 22, 2012, 10:04:54 PM

davea wrote:
It is possible, but more likely that you will get weird results. I recommend when you change mod versions, you should start a new game.

Don't know what else the mod does but I've found that all of the parts that I have dealt with won't cause anything weird in particular when you change them during an existing game.

I think the most significant are the Ship-Templates, the Hull-Workaround and the StarSystemImprovements. Non of those should really cause anything weird.

Zazen

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Zazen

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 6:30:41 PM

Hey Dave, I tried three games with the revamped & then re-fixed ship template part of your mod. Everytime the UA and Shendyn (sp?) never upgrade their ships or even use other hulls, they just churn out hundreds and hundreds of level 1 defenders with the basic equipment. You or anyone else experiencing this? The other factions insofar as I've experienced seem to do it just like you said, they diversify better and upgrade just fine.

davea

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davea

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 6:34:09 PM

@ zazen: Yes, it is reported here:

/#/endless-space/forum/37-modding/thread/15801-released-community-bug-fix-balance-mod

Unfortunately I will have to take out the "fixed ship template names" from serial 04 of the mod. I will try to integrated and upload that in 12 hours from now.

Zazen

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Zazen

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 6:55:21 PM

So, until they fix the code are you scrapping the shiptemplate mod part entirely?

davea

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davea

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 7:51:09 PM

Unfortunately yes.

Theodotus

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Theodotus

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 7:58:31 PM

So if we just remove that ship template file altogether will the mod still work?

What is new in serial 04? (I am itching to start a new game right now and try this mod, but if 04 has further improvements I'll wait for it.)

Insolentius

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Insolentius

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 8:07:09 PM

Theodotus wrote:
So if we just remove that ship template file altogether will the mod still work?

Don't just remove it, replace it with the one found in Ail's 1.1 package if you want to keep the AI design upgrades.

Theodotus

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Theodotus

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 8:09:59 PM

Many thanks for the info.

EDIT: Where is Ail's 1.1 package to be found?

stars2heaven

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stars2heaven

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 8:26:13 PM

I think this is it

/#/endless-space/forum/37-modding/thread/15776-ai-modding

Not sure if that is the official release thread for the mod, but it's the only place I could find anything related to "better ai 1.1"

Insolentius

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Insolentius

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 8:31:16 PM

That's the one, don't worry. Dave incorporated those files into his own mod and added the template name changes which cause issues.

davea

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davea

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 8:31:42 PM

The zip pointed by stars2heaven is the right one to get "better AI 1.1". The author of that zip, "ail" is not creating/releasing full mods, but only changed files. I am incorporating them into the community mod. The instruction given by insolentius is the right one; simply replace the community mod file ShipDesignTemplates.xml with the one by ail. There isn't anything significant in serial 04, it is a bug fix which will replace ShipDesignTemplates.xml, and correct three wrong Battle Card descriptions. I will also copy the English localized strings for the other languages; that is, playing in German, you will see a string in English instead of an internal name like %TraitName04.

Theodotus

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Theodotus

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 8:33:20 PM

Got it. Thank you very much!

Ail

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 9:08:14 PM

davea wrote:
The author of that zip, "ail" is not creating/releasing full mods, but only changed files.

One day I will probably look into what I have to do to make a standalone mod. My problem was that the game did not start in 2/3 of the cases when trying to launch it as standalone and I had to restart steam ... so there was little incentive to get it to work.

davea

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davea

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12 years ago

Aug 23, 2012, 9:12:36 PM

@ail, if you have a non-working mod zip, attach it and I will be happy to see if I can find a problem. It might be helpful to get these mods out directly instead of going "through" the community mod.