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4 years ago
Apr 22, 2021, 1:58:38 AM
Sublustris wrote:

Cause it isn't, it's a totalitarian state that absorbed fifteen+ multicultural nations and ethnicities, that ceased to exist thirty years ago. Its parts shared nothing common apart from government body and its maleficent ideology - nor language, nor customs, nor history, nor folklore etc. Russian culture was predominant, but it was native only to russians and forcibly imposed on the rest.

I'm not sure how you get "this wasn't really a culture and shouldnt be in the game" from the argument that there was an imposition of that culture onto other peoples because that rules out virtually everyone revealed thus far. 

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4 years ago
Apr 22, 2021, 6:14:41 AM

Suggesting Europeans and Africans as one culture is so ignorant of the reality. Both span so many so very different cultures...

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4 years ago
Apr 23, 2021, 3:20:11 AM
Mezzy wrote:
But the history of the cultures don't exist in-game as you are creating history

This is equally true of every culture in the game. The story told will be different from our world's, but this is still a historical 4x game.

Mezzy wrote:
For example you mentioned the Orthodox Church. It might not even exist in your save game as you are the one creating history along with the other players

The Russian ED is a Sobor, synod in the Orthodox Church. So the Orthodox Church is considered part of Russian culture, even if technically you can have a different religion in-game as the Russians.

Mezzy wrote:
T-34 which would be a slightly weaker EU than any other contemporary era culture

We don't even know half of the contemporary EUs (Americans: Lightning, Australians: All Terrain PMW, Chinese: Weishi Rockets, and Soviets: T34), so that is a bold statement.

Mezzy wrote:
the T-34 will be useful for a small amount of time until you research modern tanks while the other EU's like Lightning II would be useful until the rest of the game which might be a longer time than that of the T-34 and a modern tank

The claim that the gap of time is small between researching the T34 and modern tanks is utterly unsubstantiated. How do you know the time from researching the later EUs like the Lightning to the end of the game won't be even shorter?

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4 years ago
Apr 23, 2021, 11:44:39 AM
Sublustris wrote:

Cause it isn't, it's a totalitarian state that absorbed fifteen+ multicultural nations and ethnicities, that ceased to exist thirty years ago. Its parts shared nothing common apart from government body and its maleficent ideology - nor language, nor customs, nor history, nor folklore etc. Russian culture was predominant, but it was native only to russians and forcibly imposed on the rest.

I think your bias is showing.

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4 years ago
Apr 23, 2021, 11:50:55 AM
Zumwalt wrote:
Sublustris wrote:

Cause it isn't, it's a totalitarian state that absorbed fifteen+ multicultural nations and ethnicities, that ceased to exist thirty years ago. Its parts shared nothing common apart from government body and its maleficent ideology - nor language, nor customs, nor history, nor folklore etc. Russian culture was predominant, but it was native only to russians and forcibly imposed on the rest.

You are manipulating the facts.

First, there was a common history. Most republics were part of the Russian Empire. And Russia, Ukraine and Belarus had a common religion, very similar languages and cultures.

Secondly, Russian culture was not imposed by force. Of course, such a multiethnic country needed a single language. However, language is not a culture. Other cultures developed in the USSR, for example, in 1924, writing was created for the Kyrgyz language.

Third, you miss such a positive moment in the USSR as the general rise in welfare.

And then some. The US empire has imposed (without giving benefits) culture and language on many nations and territories. Why is Puerto Rico still not a state? In fact why is it part of the USA at all. And if you want to go back to just the industrial era, much of the USA is colonial land outside of the 13 colonies(colonies themselves). But we shouldn't be draggin RW politics in to the game, though some can't help themselves and just insert unreasonable arguments based on perception instead of reality.

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