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"Soviets" shouldn't be a culture.

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3 years ago
May 30, 2021, 10:25:22 PM
Mausklickmoerder wrote:

See, all this could have been avoided if Soviet Russia was just Russia after a revolution.

Truly, history shall look back and add this to its list of grievances. XD

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3 years ago
May 31, 2021, 2:02:17 AM

A culture does not necessarily equate nationality or ethnicity. And the notion of a nation as a whole was only established thanks to technological and social developments (such as newspaper, compulsory education, etc). That is why in Humankind there is a tech called "Nationhood" in Industrial era.

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3 years ago
May 31, 2021, 2:04:42 AM

Also the border of culture is relative and vague. For example, German culture can be divided into multiple smaller ones (like Bavarian) or be combined into a bigger one, like European culture, or Western Culture.

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3 years ago
May 31, 2021, 6:53:39 AM
HappyHead wrote:

Part of me was worried, as @lex-kravetski pointed out above, that soviet was english slang in the same vein as yankee, but it looks like the word was adopted by the people themselves and used as an identity descriptor.

I watch quite a few videos on Youtube from Russian speaking authors and when people of USSR are mentioned - they are usually called soviets, and it doesn't mater if the video praises USSR, critiques it or is simply informational. Also, in my country "радянці" (Ukrainian word for "soviets") is the most common name for soviet people. So, I would say that "soviets" being a slang is more like personal opinion of @lex-kravetski rather then popular opinion in post soviet countries.

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3 years ago
May 31, 2021, 7:46:45 AM
"Sowieci" ("Soviets") was/is a thing in Poland as well, but I didn't really want to chime in because due to ...history... it was used as a rather derogatory term during Interbellum, to the point that post-war there was a large scale campaign to replace (or maybe better word would be translate?) "sowiecki" as an adjective with "radziecki" (from "rada", Polish for "council").
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3 years ago
Jun 2, 2021, 6:03:14 AM
lex-kravetski wrote:


You may use word "soviet" in country name, but with some noun only. "Soviet Union" or "Soviet Republic". Now, it is like trying to call Britain "United" without "Kingdom".


Or calling the United States of America just America.


Wait!

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3 years ago
Jun 3, 2021, 5:25:27 PM

As someone who was born and lived for quite a while in the Soviet Union I can assure everyone that indeed Soviets is a correct name. The correct identification for the people in Soviet Union was Soviets People (Советский народ in Russian).


Soviet Union consisted of 16 different national republic so to label everyone as Russian was factually incorrect and moving away from Russia to completely different identity was in fact one of the main points of the Communist Revolution.


And yes the ideology was Communism but the culture was indeed Soviet, it was Soviet People, Soviet Movies etc



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