I definitely need the trek-humankind hand symbol.

I m with you with Terry xD

Oh golly, this game could be big with the mod community

It may depend a lot of the complexity of how exactly cultures interfere, as if creating new ones would be relatively doable for moders, this may become an amazing cultural civ simulator :D 

lo_fabre wrote:

I definitely need the trek-humankind hand symbol.

All it took was a bit pixabay and paint.net, so fell free to use it for your own purpose.

i think there is a mod (or maybe more) that being new option for customise our ''gouvernor'' (the guy with blue hair in video your story). for exemple implement cloth about culture or civilisation

NARWALSMAN wrote:

i think there is a mod (or maybe more) that being new option for customise our ''gouvernor'' (the guy with blue hair in video your story). for exemple implement cloth about culture or civilisation

The Avatar's clothes will already change based on your current Culture.

The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales wrote:

NARWALSMAN wrote:

i think there is a mod (or maybe more) that being new option for customise our ''gouvernor'' (the guy with blue hair in video your story). for exemple implement cloth about culture or civilisation

The Avatar's clothes will already change based on your current Culture.

Oh, if that's the case, would we be able to at least choose clothes based on all cultures we once used or only on current? 

I'd love to see a detailed-ish map that represents Europe or the World! Would be really interesting :D

HappyHead wrote:

Oh golly, this game could be big with the mod community

Here's hoping the mod tools are up to snuff. I love the Endless series, better mod support has always been the one thing I've wanted from Amplitude.

I would love a Dominions (4) mod which lets you evolve your race towards whatever race or hybrid you want.

Another one , which i admit will prolly result in a poorly executed fanboy hype massacre, is a Lord of the Rings mod, were your choices and era decisions make you lean towards certain racial features and whether or not you can profit from supporting sauron.

However, both these mods are a pretty heavy overhaul, both in gameplay and the character representation (since you will have to design the features and animations to fit together, giving far more variables). However, I would really like to see a kingdom combining Cealum and Pythium civilizations for dominions or some free-spirited halfling ogres for LotR.

At this stage it is just a mind game: I am thinking to hire some professionals and build a team specialised in modding games. Starting with Humankind. One way to found it might be Kickstarter. There are a few questions starting with: would SEGA and Amplitude Studios support this and if yes in which way? Would we get the resources (including access to the current game engine and lesson how to use it)?

Zaubberer wrote:

At this stage it is just a mind game: I am thinking to hire some professionals and build a team specialised in modding games. Starting with Humankind. One way to found it might be Kickstarter. There are a few questions starting with: would SEGA and Amplitude Studios support this and if yes in which way? Would we get the resources (including access to the current game engine and lesson how to use it)?

I wouldn't presume to speak on behalf of Amplitude, but generally speaking, having modders and money mix is usually grounds for a Cease and Desist. Besides that, might be a little optimistic anyways. I would presume Humankind remains on Unity, which at an engine level, is pretty terrible for mod support.

Humankind is based on Unity. The devs have expressed interest in giving better mod support than previous releases but these tools have not been developed yet and may not be at launch. They are aware the community wants at least a map editor and suggested that may be available as post-launch content but will not be available at launch.

Eulogos wrote:

Humankind is based on Unity. The devs have expressed interest in giving better mod support than previous releases but these tools have not been developed yet and may not be at launch. They are aware the community wants at least a map editor and suggested that may be available as post-launch content but will not be available at launch.

Eh, Unity by its very nature is pretty antithetical to modding (As importing new assets on it tends to be an utter nightmare to deal with). I'm sure the new tools will hope, but I really hope they change engines for the next game...

as i know from resent [ANOMALY] event, Amplitude is going to create a world builder and scenario editor, but they fear that they don't add them on release date. If scenario editor will be good for non-programist enjoyer, than I'll try to create some plot scenarios based on my old works.

I really want to use world builder with those high grounds  to create some maps. civ v editor is good, but one tier ground can't allow to create some good maps as I want  

Although the capabilities of the modding tools isn't entirely clear to me yet (e.g. how much change is possible given we can modify "game values"), one concept I have wanted to see in Civ for the past few years is disease. Particularly given we've all just lived through a pandemic for the past year, we can see the wide ranging effects it can have, and how it might affect the health, trade, and priorities of a civilization. 

It's ambitious for sure, but it's something I would love to dive into if the modding support is there.  Civ's "support" is pretty much limited to making it possible, but actually describing what different game values are and do would make so much more possible.

NARWALSMAN wrote:

i think there is a mod (or maybe more) that being new option for customise our ''gouvernor'' (the guy with blue hair in video your story). for exemple implement cloth about culture or civilisation

Her name is Lucy Adams

Endless Legend overhaul is the very first thing I'd like to see :P

Also in my experience (10 years or so) Unity is very suitable for modding, can't say the same for other engines which are based heavily on pre-compilation in your IDE (engine & code), probably why it's suitable for academics and a lot of Compute projects you'll find on github are boffin test cases for things like fluid dynamics. Getting data in and out of Unity is mad easy, pretty much all my workflows are xml/json, local/remote from other authored build tools hosted in local electron asset app i've built or on some linux boxes, and raw model/texture data and building dynamic interpolated derivatives at runtime. Being able to get data in / out easily with very little restrictions on how you can interact with the system is pretty much the main reason i use Unity, otherwise i'd hoik over to Unreal :)

moke93 wrote:

Although the capabilities of the modding tools isn't entirely clear to me yet (e.g. how much change is possible given we can modify "game values"), one concept I have wanted to see in Civ for the past few years is disease. Particularly given we've all just lived through a pandemic for the past year, we can see the wide ranging effects it can have, and how it might affect the health, trade, and priorities of a civilization. 

It's ambitious for sure, but it's something I would love to dive into if the modding support is there.  Civ's "support" is pretty much limited to making it possible, but actually describing what different game values are and do would make so much more possible.

I think this is a really good idea as, I myself, have not seen that many good examples of disease in Grand Strategy games. If you count plague inc then sure. I think modding a disease system might be quite easy if you piggyback on how influence and stability works.

At worst you would have to add a new value called health. This would be all speculators, as the modding support will fully decide how/if it can be done. I really like your Idea Moke, and if you are able to, I would love to see it one day

I myself are still struggling to find ways to make a balanced True Start Location Earth Map. Every single way that I have devised would require more land in some form. A map-switching system like in Rimwolrd and a layer system for the Y axis were both suggested to me.

Designing geographical earth is pretty easy, just find a projection you like and plop a 130x71 hex grid on it. And if everyone starts randomly, hearts of the continents would be were most people stay. For example in North America people would stay in the states, South America in Brazil etc...etc. because there isn't that much land in Europe. Realistically one or two cultures can fit, cramped at that.

I am hoping that the modding support will allow the capability of a larger map in some way shape or form, but that is a small possibility.

Mod idea_0: newspaper, presents international diplomatic events in a reporting format.

Mod_idea_1: MANKIND mod. Introduce everything that Political Correctness hates. Missing Weapons of Mass Destruction (chemical, biochemical weapons etc.), genocide, carpet bombing on cities, rational superiority, terrorism, covert operations, mass surveillance on population, indoctrination of population, disinformation operations...

Mod_idea_2: more modern defensive structures such as barbed wires, tank traps, minefield (anti-personnel or anti-tank), watch tower, bunker (armed with machine gun, AT-gun, AA gun etc), trenches, and border walls. However, fort districts would have to be changed a bit... (maybe with the ability to fire mortar/artillery or any kind of ranged attacks?)

PrinceCosmo wrote:

Simple one: I'd like to see cultural transcendence modded out. I'm just not a fan of the mechanic.

Love too fame is ok but it's not giving you any opportunity to diversify and complexify your gameplay

200mm wrote:

Mod idea_0: newspaper, presents international diplomatic events in a reporting format.

Mod_idea_1: MANKIND mod. Introduce everything that Political Correctness hates. Missing Weapons of Mass Destruction (chemical, biochemical weapons etc.), genocide, carpet bombing on cities, rational superiority, terrorism, covert operations, mass surveillance on population, indoctrination of population, disinformation operations...

Mod_idea_2: more modern defensive structures such as barbed wires, tank traps, minefield (anti-personnel or anti-tank), watch tower, bunker (armed with machine gun, AT-gun, AA gun etc), trenches, and border walls. However, fort districts would have to be changed a bit... (maybe with the ability to fire mortar/artillery or any kind of ranged attacks?)

News papers is a really great idea

Few ideas here ,

1. Unlock more legacy trait at tribal eras , for exemple hunters witch gives you more gold when you hunt .

2. The possibility to sell/buy food as well as unit or protective treaties / science contract  .

3. Land leases and Money loans .

4. Modify terrain , planting forest , creating hills , make canals , but taking enough long and generate money cost .

5. The possibility to engage a city in a combat near it .

I hope it's not a necro but anyways ^^'

Do you know of the C2C mod for Civ4 ?

It's a shame, because it's the best mod, period, but the engine can't take it after you play a bit and expand, it wasn't meant to support so many things, and with the few dozen scripts all running.... yikes

But for Humankind, there might be something, it's WAY easier to mod and the engine could take it all

I basically want to turn Humankind into a C2C, it will be long, REALLY long, but it could be done

The problem for me is 3D/2D assets, I don't have the competences to do them, even less with the graphical touch that Humankind have

But other than that, adding a few (thousand) techs, a few (thousand) civics, cultures, and all the mechanics surrounding them ?

That's not hard

McplOdysseus wrote:

I myself are still struggling to find ways to make a balanced True Start Location Earth Map. Every single way that I have devised would require more land in some form. A map-switching system like in Rimwolrd and a layer system for the Y axis were both suggested to me.

Designing geographical earth is pretty easy, just find a projection you like and plop a 130x71 hex grid on it. And if everyone starts randomly, hearts of the continents would be were most people stay. For example in North America people would stay in the states, South America in Brazil etc...etc. because there isn't that much land in Europe. Realistically one or two cultures can fit, cramped at that.

I am hoping that the modding support will allow the capability of a larger map in some way shape or form, but that is a small possibility.

I feel like it's useless to try and balance an Earth map

Each region has it's pros and cons, that's why we trade after all

If you do your map realistically, it would force player interraction in a much more meaningfull way

That is, if we can make bigger maps

Here are a couple mod ideas:

1. A clock in the corner, with a timer that will let you know when you should really get some sleep.

2. Duck-kind. Set in the Ducktales universe, replaces cultures with various animal pun replacements.

3. Titans. In this, dragons, giants, and other monsters will spawn in places where there is no visibility (although much more rare than mammoths), and each is incredibly powerful and dangerous, able to attack cities even. The good news is that they give you a lot of fame for defeating them. Some events and actions can also cause them to spawn later in the game, such as nuclear tests having a chance of spawning kaiju.

4. Wrath of the Gods. There are a random number of gods in every game, and you have to spend a certain amount of religious points to discover their identities. This is important, because each god has a criteria list of who they like the least, and eventually they will cause some catastrophe to fall upon those who don't honor them enough. What kind of catastrophe? Well, one of them can cause one of your regions to sink into the sea, becoming Atlantis, if you gave the least sacrifices and/or had the least naval activity.

A mod that shows the total of the positive and negative stability

Legendtyler0102 wrote:

A mod that shows the total of the positive and negative stability

Hmmm, like what increase and decrease it ?

If that's the case, it's already in-game

I would like to see a bit more information about the city on the main screen, not the city screen.

Especially - city is losing population and city has a low stability,

Well, that's already the case ?

Just put your mouse on the stability/food/whatever and you'll see details

If I understand correctly, that is ^^'

Rexeit wrote:

Well, that's already the case ?

Just put your mouse on the stability/food/whatever and you'll see details

If I understand correctly, that is ^^'

Yeah it show them all separated out I'm not playing videos to do math I want to have fun and its not fun to have to add 2 sets of numbers then subtract them to figure out how many districts I can build before it dips below 100

Legendtyler0102 wrote:

Rexeit wrote:

Well, that's already the case ?

Just put your mouse on the stability/food/whatever and you'll see details

If I understand correctly, that is ^^'

Yeah it show them all separated out I'm not playing videos to do math I want to have fun and its not fun to have to add 2 sets of numbers then subtract them to figure out how many districts I can build before it dips below 100

Then it's the wrong type of game for you buddy

4X/Strategy/managment games aren't easy, and yeah you need to actually think to play those

But I agree on the point that, for a clearer perception of the game, having the overhaul detail of all the cities on the civic map (where your empire stability is) could be good

Rexeit wrote:

Legendtyler0102 wrote:

Rexeit wrote:

Well, that's already the case ?

Just put your mouse on the stability/food/whatever and you'll see details

If I understand correctly, that is ^^'

Yeah it show them all separated out I'm not playing videos to do math I want to have fun and its not fun to have to add 2 sets of numbers then subtract them to figure out how many districts I can build before it dips below 100

Then it's the wrong type of game for you buddy

4X/Strategy/managment games aren't easy, and yeah you need to actually think to play those

But I agree on the point that, for a clearer perception of the game, having the overhaul detail of all the cities on the civic map (where your empire stability is) could be good

What does thinking have to do with it. It's terrible ui design to not have everything there for the player.

Legendtyler0102 wrote:

Rexeit wrote:

Legendtyler0102 wrote:

Rexeit wrote:

Well, that's already the case ?

Just put your mouse on the stability/food/whatever and you'll see details

If I understand correctly, that is ^^'

Yeah it show them all separated out I'm not playing videos to do math I want to have fun and its not fun to have to add 2 sets of numbers then subtract them to figure out how many districts I can build before it dips below 100

Then it's the wrong type of game for you buddy

4X/Strategy/managment games aren't easy, and yeah you need to actually think to play those

But I agree on the point that, for a clearer perception of the game, having the overhaul detail of all the cities on the civic map (where your empire stability is) could be good

What does thinking have to do with it. It's terrible ui design to not have everything there for the player.

Oh you know, nothing much

Planning your moves in advance

You cities location

Build order

Diplomacy

Trade

Civics

Researchs

So on and so forth

Thinking about those is the core goal of those games, if you don't, you're crushed, as simple as that

But like I said, I agree that it should be easier accessing those datas, it isn't a UI problem, but a QoL one in my opinion

If adding 2 numbers and subtrating them is too much, maybe playing a FPS or racing game might be better.

Rexeit wrote:

Legendtyler0102 wrote:

Rexeit wrote:

Legendtyler0102 wrote:

Rexeit wrote:

Well, that's already the case ?

Just put your mouse on the stability/food/whatever and you'll see details

If I understand correctly, that is ^^'

Yeah it show them all separated out I'm not playing videos to do math I want to have fun and its not fun to have to add 2 sets of numbers then subtract them to figure out how many districts I can build before it dips below 100

Then it's the wrong type of game for you buddy

4X/Strategy/managment games aren't easy, and yeah you need to actually think to play those

But I agree on the point that, for a clearer perception of the game, having the overhaul detail of all the cities on the civic map (where your empire stability is) could be good

What does thinking have to do with it. It's terrible ui design to not have everything there for the player.

Oh you know, nothing much

Planning your moves in advance

You cities location

Build order

Diplomacy

Trade

Civics

Researchs

So on and so forth

Thinking about those is the core goal of those games, if you don't, you're crushed, as simple as that

But like I said, I agree that it should be easier accessing those datas, it isn't a UI problem, but a QoL one in my opinion

If adding 2 numbers and subtrating them is too much, maybe playing a FPS or racing game might be better.

Ok first off I didn't say I don't want to think about anything. Never in my long hours of every 4X game there is have I ever had to do math for numbers that are plainly visible to the player I've made spreadsheets for numbers that are not displayed in other games if the information is going to be out in the open it shouldn't be a hassle to figure out instead of wasting time figuring it out I could be planning my next city or next conquest so get off your high horse thinking your the mightiest 4x player that ever lived just because your to ignorant to realize its simply bad design and instead keep using what I said as "well if you don't like thinking...."  if I wanted to have to figure out the number that are right in front of me I would play a paradox game

I'd like to see more first-era cultures.  Later eras let you transcend, so you effectively have more than ten options (even if only ten options are fully optimal gameplay-wise), but the first era is more limited.  You're also pretty limited geographically.  Here are some I was thinking of to add a bit of geographic diversity:

Chavín - Builder (South America)

Đông Sơn - Scientist (Southeast Asia)

Jomon - Agrarian (Japan)

Lapita - Expansionist-Naval (Oceania)

Nok - Aesthete (West Africa)

Poverty Point (is there a better name?) - Builder (North America) 

Scythian - Militarist (Eurasia)

Únětice - Merchant (Central Europe)

Urewe - Agrarian (Subsaharan Africa)

A fantasy mod that replaces the animals in the game with dinosaurs. It'd be a world similar to old caveman fantasy movies, Frank Frazetta paintings, or Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal. That would be fun for me.

A tunnel district is really needed in the game right now. 

There should be a mod that displays the user interface as well as the management of all important resources and status information without having to search for them.

Another thought of mine would be whether there could not be a mod that at least the strengths of the avatar for the user to unlock or make usable, that could give the game more fun in my opinion.