its really a urgent matter since it costs too much time and nerves in multiplayer. Totally agreed.

@Lt_Miles @The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales can you confirm that this game has been tested without .net 3.5 on Windows 10? It was never needed before patch 1.

can you also confirm this game has been tested on Windows 10 with OneDrive KFM enabled for Documents?

Good job doing that but as i saw on the forum 8% of the community play multiplayer so its not critical for them to fix this and of course 8% is because people wont play a game with constant disconnect... snake eating his tail again that will need time all we can do is wait and hope or refund if its not too late.

I've also noticed that sometimes units are not synched and the other player can just do whatever like the units didn't exist in his map if the units have been spawned the turn before so potentially has more issues than what we realise

Haloman91 wrote:

Good job doing that but as i saw on the forum 8% of the community play multiplayer

The achievement for playing with a human player on steam has a 0.7% completion rate, but this achievement only triggers when you finish a game with a human player, I think that speaks volumes about how bad of a shape the multiplayer aspect of the game is in, because I see boatloads of lobbies on the multiplayer connect window no matter what time I play the game but very few people are managing to play to the end what with having to rehost lobbies multiple times in a 3 turn period, nukes softlocking the game, certain AI units softlocking battles which softlocks the end turn button and so on. One would have hoped for a hotfix for some of the most egregious bugs by now but I guess we can hope Amplitude are packing all their croissants in one bag and we get a massive sweeping fix in one big patch or something knocking out a majority of the issues in the first month of release, cause' its been almost a week now.

Thanks for your work, al Qamar! I share your sentiment.

This issue is a nightmare. So many wasted hours. Repeated turns. Messages saying 'connection lost. The host has left the game, or you have been disconnected from the game server'. Crazy that the game has launched with this serious multiplayer issue. Clearly an issue with Humankind as nothing else is effected and we never have these kinds of connection issues, especially when we are playing in the same room. 

huzzd wrote:

This issue is a nightmare. So many wasted hours. Repeated turns. Messages saying 'connection lost. The host has left the game, or you have been disconnected from the game server'. Crazy that the game has launched with this serious multiplayer issue. Clearly an issue with Humankind as nothing else is effected and we never have these kinds of connection issues, especially when we are playing in the same room. 

yes, i agree. got a bunch of friends who played civ and hopped onto the humankind train when we saw it, loved the combat systems and figuring out the mechanics but goddamn the amount of desyncs and disconnects is quite abhorrent. a couple of turns in and we all drop, tried to reload and one of us gets disconnected during the loading process. 

getting really tired of the unplayable state of the game right now. 

Thanks for your upvotes and ongoing support.

I really do not care much about player statistics. as said in the OP Humankind has many issues and it is upon the devs to triage and prioritize.

Among the issues in MP, which is part of the advertised featureset, imho this has the highest priority, I hope this makes it clear that this does not mean it has the highest total priority over all issues reported. 

Please keep share your point of views and experience while reporting the issue in majorly this thread with savegames and logs. 

I am #NotADev but I know that few logs from few people could be too less to find a repro of this issue. More cases and logs are never wrong. 

@Stealthkibbler  @Lt_Miles @The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales seems I have great news. even though the MP sync fix is not included in the beta patch notes, I can report the following

1. turn with the beta patch the game was still desync as before after end turn for both

2. after this the sync issue did not appear for 7 turns, which is an remarkable leap forward from where we come from.

3. Seems like Stealthkibbler has found the possible root cause. on turn 7 it went desync again. 

How to repro:

- 1 move a unit

- both players press end turn while the unit is still moving

- game desync on the begining of this turn. After end turn the player should not be able to change anything except scrolling the map and view things. This seems to heal it.

If this is the cause it would also explain reports of others that also other of your game have this issue. but it can be easily fixed by locking moves and building queues.

alQamar wrote:

@Stealthkibbler  @Lt_Miles @The-Cat-o-Nine-Tales seems I have great news. even though the MP sync fix is not included in the beta patch notes, I can report the following

1. turn with the beta patch the game was still desync as before after end turn for both

2. after this the sync issue did not appear for 7 turns, which is an remarkable leap forward from where we come from.

3. Seems like Stealthkibbler has found the possible root cause. on turn 7 it went desync again. 

How to repro:

- 1 move a unit

- both players press end turn while the unit is still moving

- game desync on the begining of this turn. After end turn the player should not be able to change anything except scrolling the map and view things. This seems to heal it.

If this is the cause it would also explain reports of others that also other of your game have this issue. but it can be easily fixed by locking moves and building queues.

tyvm for the update, much appreciated.

I have to thank you for the discovery. Since the game is nearly stable with the beta patch. 1 internet connection lost after 12 turns and 2 desync of which one was the one avoidable above.

honestly i would rather they would prioritize the stuck on loading screen error... some of us can't even get to the main menu, despitze all the fixes listed everywhere!

@Techadept it feels you are frustrated about it and it is very understandable. What do you think about posting this in relevant bug threads for this particular issue?

alQamar wrote:

I have to thank you for the discovery. Since the game is nearly stable with the beta patch. 1 internet connection lost after 12 turns and 2 desync of which one was the one avoidable above.

In 12 turns 1 desync and 1 dc is still pretty unstable. But good to know on a workaround.